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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:10 am 
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I have many reasons for writing this post right but mainly to get people's opinions and possibly provide some advice if need be.

I am a 20 year old (virgin by choice), I'm not sure if a lot of people can relate to me on this but I've realized that ALL women cannot be trusted. Matter of fact, humanity in itself cannot be trusted since we all live in a society of self-gratification. This instant self-gratification mentality that we've adopted has translated into how we choose our mates. Relationships with women (i'm assuming most members are men), are completely pointless since there will always be a guy more suiting for her than you. That same guy who is more suiting that you has a guy more suiting than him. It's a never ending vicious cycle which leads every man in a relationship with a woman to be "just for the moment" boyfriend.

This means you're basically just there occupying her time and satisfying her current needs until a more suitable mate comes along. Who knows however long this guy might take to come sweep her off her feet but they just can't ever be trusted. This realization that any woman at any given moment in time, no matter how well I game/build rapport her will find another man who pleases certain desires that I can't fulfill (such as a fantasy or whatever it may be) and I will be replaced.

With that being said, since I am a virgin by choice, I'm obviously not interested in women for sex. I'm not sure if it's even possible to have a proper relationship without sex but I understand well that you have to balance female affection and sexual desire with a woman in order to keep her which is something I do quite well (my foreplay is amazing) :D

Lately, I've just had this overwhelming burden on my shoulder to never want to trust a woman with my heart (as sensitive as it sounds). But since that is all my whole values and beliefs revolve around I'm in a state of slight depression everyday. It drives me to want to get stoned out of my mind everyday to escape this realization. I don't even know what I'm pleading right now but hearing anything from anyone would help.

And no, no girl has broke my heart yet, I haven't even been in a relationship for longer than 4 months. I've never been satisfied enough with a girl to want to let her get to know me. Also since I'm a virgin by choice a lot of the women I get caught up with just want to "corrupt" me as one girl put it.

I realized all of this though after talking to a girl for over 2 months whom I had genuine interest in (rarely does it happen), told me she couldn't hang out with me at night anymore. Implying that our late night sexual extravaganza's are going against her relationship code. She literally just said, "relationship status changed". She did have an ex for 6 years so I'm assuming she's back with him again. This was the tipping point for me that lead me here. I just let her off like I do with any female interaction. "I appreciate the experience, I learned a lot... I hope this doesn't change our friendship and the best of luck to you BLAH BLAH BLAH PRETENDING NOT TO CARE". I eventually get over it but it makes me feel strange in the meantime. I don't want to label it heart break but I feel something there ya know :roll:


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:50 pm 
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I seriously think you need to get laid and see if it doesn't improve your outlook on life 8)

In all seriousness, you need to get out of these self-defeating, limited beliefs. You seem to be focusing so much on all the things that could go wrong with a woman, rather than all the things that could go right.

Try and live in the moment rather than predicting the future in terms of everything going wrong or some man stealing your girl or whatever. Just be happy and enjoy everything as it comes, it's a much more attractive attitude to have and will lead to a more fulfilling life for you.

Answer me this if you would - where does that whole 'this could go wrong, she could leave me, a meteor could hit me, the club could set on fire so I might not even go' mindstate get you? What does that belief do for your life, is it useful in any way?

If not, perhaps look to change it 8)


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:16 pm 
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I am a 20 year old (virgin by choice), I'm not sure if a lot of people can relate to me on this but I've realized that ALL women cannot be trusted. Matter of fact, humanity in itself cannot be trusted since we all live in a society of self-gratification. This instant self-gratification mentality that we've adopted has translated into how we choose our mates. Relationships with women (i'm assuming most members are men), are completely pointless since there will always be a guy more suiting for her than you. That same guy who is more suiting that you has a guy more suiting than him. It's a never ending vicious cycle which leads every man in a relationship with a woman to be "just for the moment" boyfriend.

This means you're basically just there occupying her time and satisfying her current needs until a more suitable mate comes along. Who knows however long this guy might take to come sweep her off her feet but they just can't ever be trusted. This realization that any woman at any given moment in time, no matter how well I game/build rapport her will find another man who pleases certain desires that I can't fulfill (such as a fantasy or whatever it may be) and I will be replaced.
Typical post made by somebody who very likely gathered all of their information from nihilistic losers who share their opinion on psychology on Yahoo Answers or some other source.

There are so many holes and fallacies in this post that it actually made me cringe. You seem to be grossly pigeonholing every single person into the same category, yet somehow you are magically exempt from these behaviors because you acknowledge them? :shock:

For the most part, the relationships you're describing apply to long term relationships strictly based on physical attraction. Typically you're talking about a pigeon-brained HB10 that fell for the guy based on how hot his looks were, how much money he has, social status, etc. rather than any commonalities and after she finds somebody with more of those things he gets traded in.

Physical attraction definitely matters in all relationships but when you share certain commonalities with somebody and you learn to value more than just their looks a relationship can be made to last. Intelligence, common interests, certain personality traits, etc. are all things you begin to find attractive and you will realize there is nobody else that will be able to replace those individual traits. I know many gorgeous women that have been fiercely loyal to their man for 10+ years and wouldn't even think of leaving or cheating with anybody.

Now that that is out of the way, this site doesn't really focus on that and the fact that some women are disloyal dolts (just like some men are) shouldn't discourage you from PUA or finding a lasting relationship. And hey, what's wrong with being a hottie's boytoy for a while if you're not in a relationship? Just because it might not last doesn't mean it's not worth it. :wink:

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