Hello!
How would you deal with a nice girl who's working in a pub, a restaurant etc? The point is that she's working and hasn't much time to talk to you...

Use that to your advantage. If its a resaturant then she has to come back and forth to you because that's her job, just make sure that you keep everything short and snappy.
You've gotta try and be funny and not come across as wierd etc. Make yourself different from every other random customer that she has seen that day/week and you'll go far!

Eze is right. She has to return to you multiple times, so don't be awkward. Like he said, use it to your advantage by building rapport.

Some guys like to treat them poorly (just a little), especially if the girl knows she's good looking/often get attention. So when she first comes up to you, pretend she's not even there and continue talking to your buddy for an extra 5 seconds. And then be like, "Oh!" (With whatever attitude) Test her and let her seek your validation.

However, some girls don't have the best confidence, so building positive vibes is good. Don't worry because since she needs to come back multiple times, you'll have breathing space to plan your next move with her when she's not there.

Last night a wing and I gamed a waitress. She's a HB6, so not the best pick but practice is practice right? Getting her number was easy, and fun!

I would love to hear what line you use Flyleaf1008. My bud and I been going to this one pub for awhile now. A regular to this one waitress. She seem nice just never could come up with anything good to say! What would you say when she come around asking usual waiter question? Oh, once she see my bud and I walk in, she automatically grab our drink without even asking which is nice and annoying at times.

What can I get you?

How's everything tasting?

Would you like another drink?

You done with everything?

Can I get you anything else?

Just the bill?

I feel there has to be a way to turn these around and build rapport, but I just can't come up with ANYTHING!!!

PS: I'm sure Bermuda07 would like to know as well.

Thanks
-Jax

Well I'm sorry to say Glaze, but things aren't that easy. You can't guarantee a lay, or even numbers with some lines. Also since she's a bartender, I'm sure she's not going to want to hear some lines thrown at her.

First off, lines are only offered to people so they can be seen as examples, or guides. But don't rely on them. I've fond that they cripple your approach because 1) They're not yours thus not authentic, therefore, harder to believe in for you and she may feel that and 2) "faking it till you make it" isn't fun. And pick up should be fun, right?!

I'm no pro, I'm fairly new to it as well. Just remember that sometimes even at your best times, some girls just wont be interested in you, and that's ok. Accepting this as truth makes you a man who can handle rejection in a mature manner. People think that they can use a method and get ANY girl regardless of how you look. If that were true, then why isn't that secret already exposed after millions of years of evolution? Every guy should be scoring like crazy according to that theory by now right? Think about it. Not all women are the same. The woman validates whom is attractive. If two guys go fight over a girl and the alpha wins, sometimes she'll just stay with the one who lost. Don't ask why, it's just her deciding whom she will validate.

So let me break down what happened 2 nights ago. My friend/wing and I went to a bar and grill and the waitress was kind of cute. He and I shot the shit for a bit and I glance at her while she was away and say to my bud, "She's kinda cute..."

"Get her number."

"Hmm..." Here I was planning. How do I get a waitress comfortable enough to give me her digits in a short amount of time? I mean, it's not going to be easy. These girls are hired because they are attractive or have some cute qualities and most of them know it.

Thankfully my friend is a natural flirt. Any pretty girl that pops by, he'll automatically converse with (and he's not a creep about it). He's fun and sends a positive and fun vibe. That's really important! Remember that! And remember, be genuine!

So I used his charisma to my advantage. Next thing you know, whenever she stopped by, we'd ask her random but fun questions from our conversation. These weren't canned lines. These were legit convo topics. Things like "Let me ask you something (do not wait to see if she's interested, just ask), have you ever downed vinegar?" It doesn't have to be something special, just something that will give a positive and probably fun and entertaining feedback. Then quickly branch off that topic into another one. For example:

She said, "Oh god, I remember one time I did that, it was honestly the worst thing I ever drank. I felt so sick."

Quickly I responded with, "That reminds me, the worst thing I ever drank was a shot of tabasco sauce! A friend and I were at a party and as soon as we counted to three, I downed it. My friend however, just threw it over his shoulder!" (You can use this story, or something like it. Remember, keep it fun!)

If she's right there and you've already built a little bit of rapport with her, use your environment and pull something out of it. When our waitress knew we were cool guys who were just relaxing and having fun, she let her guard down just a bit. My wing said, "What's that ring on your left hand? Are you married?" She said it was an irish ring with a certain symbol on it. I quickly said, "Can I see?" She put her hand out and without saying anything, I took her hand with one of my own and brought it just an inch closer and touched the ring. My wing quickly picked this up and then started to touch her same hand too. (I wished he hadn't did that. Might of been too much attention to her)

Either way, keep it fun and let her know that your just a little interested. Poke fun at her. My friend asked if she was still in school (Do not ask simple interview questions like that. Go with something like, "you must go to _____ University right? No? Your an intern then?" Keep away from the interview stuff, it's boring).

Her: "No I'm an intern at blah blah."

Me: "Oh really? Cool!"

Wing (who is now trying to rival my game a bit): "Of course she's interning, what did you think she's do after college?" (He was trying to make me look slightly dull)

Looking at him I said, "Well how am I supposed to know? That's why I asked, after all she's probably smarter than she looks!" (This is great because this caused a really positive reaction from her. She gets by now that I'm joking and poking fun at her, so any dull impression that my wing threw on me was quickly eradicated. This only comes with practice.)

I quickly and playfully apologized and continued on with her. Later while we kept the vibe fun, I looked at her and with a playful smirk and said, "So Kaitlyn, let me ask you. Are you seeing anyone? Like a guy or something?" I was being rather direct here. Don't sound needy, but sound like an interested person who just wants some facts.

She said, "Well no, but I see a lot of people." ;D

I replied, "well well... I want your number."

She came back with the receipt and insisted that the number was real, lol. I called her and got a voice message. It is indeed her number.

Incase you didn't notice, a lot of my game has to do with the environment (which I think is more fluent and natural). I use things around me to my advantage, even my rival/wing/friend's stuff that get's thrown at me. I turn it around to my advantage. But I still have lots to learn.

After being in the field for some time, I've come to learn that getting a number doesn't really mean that much. So you got seven numbers grouped together. That doesn't always equal that she's interested. Some girls give numbers out of pity, and others do it for self validation, with no intention of picking up her phone for the guy. Some are fake, and even if it seemed like she was into you, just remember, she's in customer service. Think about that.

The last thing I want to do is discourage you, but I also don't want to build you up only so that you'll probably feel cheated. Let's aim for realistic, with what works.

Wow, I asked for a example, not a short story Flyleaf1008...

Haha! Those were some awesome come backs! I, however, are weak with my comeback. I recently(2-3 months ago) discover that I DHV by lowering people around me. So I immediately learn what I say and stop. Never realize I did that till I started learning the way of PUA. Maybe later I'll learn to throw some good comebacks.

Anyways, thanks for the short story. I completely understood what you mean. I feel discourage to interact with anyone in the service industry. Feels like they're there to answer. Like a answer machine. Good place to warm up, bad place to hook up.

Sorry to hijacked your post Bermuda07. Hope you learn a thing or two like me.

-Jax

I work at a bar/grill and I can tell the waitresses are usually annoyed, they get hit on constantly by guys, and lot of them or chodes.... As mentioned you need to find a way to brighten their day be it a witty comment or just a smile...Just don't be one of those chodes, also please and thank you go a long way.

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