Brother I already know it will be said, so let me save you some hassle.......

Post either the entire story/conversation, or the gist of it.

My issue is that personally, I hate texting, and in my texts with a great girl I hooked up with when I went home from college, I tend to do very few texts per conversation (4-6 per exchange), with a large body of information. I don't feel texting has added sexual tension, but has taught me a few interesting things about her, and has been a decent springboard for a bit of flirting, and affirming whether she still wants to get together when I'm back in town.

However, I texted her two days ago, and have not received a reply, the text was fairly generic, detailing how I'm going to be home soon, I'm going out tonight, and then finished asking her how things were in general. Early texts were pretty engaging (for sms messages I suppose), and ended in momentous/foreshadowing statements, "I'll be looking forward to seeing you when you get back", etc

In the past my replies have been slow (2 hours at the most), and she often returns at intervals of 20-30 minutes, but I've normally been genuinely busy socialising etc

So where did I go wrong, why isn't she replying at all?

What text?

What context?

What's the history?

Get back to me with the details.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Let me get this straight.. you are on edge because she didn't reply to one text of yours? She could be genuinely busy too, man. You're not the only one in the world with a life. Also, since the text was fairly generic she would not have bothered too much with replying.

I want to drill this into people's heads but can't, if you're texting a girl, make it about the both of you, if not about her. General texts lead to nothing. There's no point in idle chit-chat. And since you don't place much importance on texting, you don't realize it's potential. It's about heating the oven, before you put the meat in. (Pardon my crudeness, but you should get the idea)

Keep your texts about the two of you. The general talking can be done when there's a pause in conversation. The more you address the attraction part, the more you'll reinforce that. Comprende?

And 2 hours per reply? Seriously? How long does it take to take your phone out and punch a few keys? I don't want you to be a Byron in your texting, but try to reply quicker. It takes an average of 10 minutes to type and send a text. And that's a broad "average".

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Well, she did actually apologise for not replying to my texts today, sending me a text soon after midnight, saying she'd been working - I've not replied, even though I'm always up late, I don't want to give the impression I'm the sort of AFC guy that replies straight away in the early hours of morning. Her response acknowledges my mundane chatting, but in a predictable and passive way, and ends with 'Are you back home yet?', a question I know she knows the answer to (yes).

Will reply probably in the afternoon though, need a way to acknowledge the attraction and making it about 'us', however, I don't want to come across as creepy/presumptuous, as although we hooked up, that's the only time I've properly met her, and I expect to see her on the coming Wednesday.

Extra information on the girl includes
-Virgin
-Very hot, and knows how to use it
-Consciously authentic
-Intelligent
-Known for being a 'runner' when things get serious according to her friends
-Elusive (like myself, one of those people with almost nothing on their Facebook, and lives in a fairly isolated area)

Maybe some advice on how to play work on a girl like that? As in, I honestly wouldn't mind entering a steady relationship with her.

Thanks for your reply, any more help is massively appreciated.

Hey Don, The girl I told you about the other week I met her yesterday. She was there. However she did not know how to get to the train station therefore I met her at the cinemas. I asked her' When do you get more texts? We will stay in contact ' She said: ' I dont know, about a week ' This girl is very cute..And I feel i can go a long way if i play my cards correctly. However i did not close her during the cinemas. I have been speaking with this girl for approximately 6 months on the phone, and on the internet. She is a very shy and not confident girl at all. Yesterday I met her in real life. However she decided to bring her friend. We went to the cinemas together. And I managed to make the target smile and laugh. But nothing more than that. After the cinemas we walked around for a while and they both had to leave due to the mother giving my target a call to come home. I had travelled around 70 miles to see this target. And spent £25 on the train. She said that she thought I was really nice and she likes my personality. However it was clear that she was nervous throughout the day and very shy. But that's just the girl she is. Esepecially with guys she doesn't know very well. I managed to make the target smile and laugh alot during the day. However no "real talk" or deep conversations was intitated because she had to leave. And she was with her friend. This girl claims that I'm the best guy in her life. And she loves me. She wants to see me again. She even asked me: ' What would you do/say if I would of kissed you? ' As I left her alone with her friend to walk back home. I gave her a quick hug and then we both went our seperate ways. The target said to me ' Do you want me to come to the station with you? ' I said yeah sure, her friend wasn't too keen on that idea. So the target stopped her from going. I was in a very tough situation with these girls yesterday. I dont understand if i played my game correctly or not. I used one of MM's Lines, ' Im the tribal leader ' Im the protector of the ones that I love ' These both made her smile and laugh.. I even noticed her cheeks turn red during the conversation after the cinema. However because her friend was there. I couldn't progress much more. Whats my next step?

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Alex, Pimp in training.

Don, I have been on one date with this girl, some kissing and hugging. How do you handle arguments without being overly jerkish and making her leave?

I teased this chick about not answering me about going on a second date. I asked the question and she completely avoided it. When I teased her about it, she refused to accept that she avoided the question. It turned into a fight, but I caved, because really I don't care about the argument that much. It was small anyways, and this chick isn't super bright.


Here is the gist of the texts. We had been sending each other texts every couple minutes before my question.

Me: Come out with me tonight.

Her(7 hours later): Hey.

Me(3hrs later): What's up?

Her: Nothing, you?

Me: I asked some chick earlier today to go out with me and she avoided the question =)


She got defensive stating her "Hey" was the answer. Which just sounds completely fucking bonkers.

I've always had this problem with girls I've been seeing. They all want to be exclusive, and they do not want me to see other girls.
So, I'm having this girl coming over soon. Can anyone give me some advice in how to tell her that i don't want anything more than just a "friendship with benefits", without her getting mad at me / begins rejecting me?

Thanks!!

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*Enigma*

How to approach things with a girl like that? Well, like you would with every other girl. Except take a slightly light handed approach when things start getting hot and heavy, considering she's a "runaway bride" type.

More importantly, if you know all those things about her, especially that she uses her looks for her benefit, then you'd know better than to fall for that trap. Being a virgin means she's screening pretty damned hard for the guy she wants to lose it to.

At this point, it should be fairly obvious to start focusing on relentless attraction and comfort building. Incorporate kino-escalation. DiCarlo Escalation Ladder is your friend.

And try to make an effort, or atleast make it seem like you're trying to make an effort for her. She'll appreciate the knowledge that you're going an extra mile for her affections.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Well, maybe you should've addressed the obstacle directly and disabled that threat early on, so that she might not have been so much of an intrusion in your private time with the girl of your dreams.

Go browse the forum on tactics for dealing with the Mother Hen, as they like to call it in the community. That should help you for future encounters.

Moving on, in reply to her question of "What would you do/say if I would of kissed you?", you could've just smiled and said, "Let's find out." and leaned in and kissed her. The fact that she brought that question up meant that kissing was on her mind and she would not have offered any sort of resistance had you gone ahead and pulled the proverbial trigger.

Be bold, man. I know you were thinking about her friend and everything but to let the presence of another affect your "game" to such a level, is just not good. Be confident in your actions. At the end of the day, her friend can only say so much if you've established the right connection. She will pay more heed to you.

Now, pointers for next time:

* Be bold.

* Kino-escalation

* The least that you can do is, Kiss her.

* Learn how to deal with her friends.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Well, it is, as you put, "completely fucking bonkers".

So, how do you deal with not so bright women without coming off as jerks? Well, to be honest you have to be patient. And obvious in your words. If you're sending out a dinner invitation, tell her the time, the place and how to dress i.e. casual, formal whatever and then, she can have a better response to that.

Why? Because she obviously cannot think too much for herself. She needs you to give the lion's share of the input in the situation. And you'll have to do that.

For additional use, there's these book called "Thank You for Arguing: What Aristotle, Lincoln, and Homer Simpson Can Teach Us about the Art of Persuasion" and "How to Win Every Argument: The Use and Abuse of Logic" that you can check out. They'll help.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Well, women want us to be honest. And right from the get-go. So, if this is going to be JUST about the sex. Then, you need to specify it to her that while you're not in a position in your life to enter any sort of commitments right now, you cannot deny the amazing attraction and desire you have for her, you want her very badly and feel this immense physical pull towards her.. blah blah blah blah

The point to be taken is that you have to put the first one or two lines about the fact that you're not willing to commit. After that you need to unleash a deluge of reinforcing what you want i.e. physical relations with her.

And hence, you need to talk about her body, the feelings of lust she invokes in you, how amazing the sex could be, how she's been on your mind and all that stuff which basically pushes the equation towards sex.

And try to avoid romantic gestures and the "L-word" like the plague. Ever see the womanizers portrayed in movies and books? They are all holding back at some level. Try to incorporate that.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Hello, My name is Lester, I am new to the PUA game I stumbled across PUA-ing last night and I read many interesting stuff. I am trying to game this girl I've known for months. we used to talk all the time however, the past 2 weeks I've been trying to talk to her via BlackBerry Messenger, I get slow replies after couple of hours or the following day, 2 days ago I tried the Cube routine by Neil Strauss, she gave a negative response saying that, its just a coincidence that I would give the same response regardless of what she said. I am trying to game her but she don't seem interested can I get some advice on how to game her please?

Help is very much appreciated.

Lester

Hey hows it going everybody.. ok so ive been texting this one girl, and she has a pretty big ego. We met at a party, started flirting, yata yata got her number. Well after negging her at the party and having fun i thought id be a little cocky. Here's how the text started

Her: Hello young fellow.
me: Hello there lassie, dirty or classy?
Her: umm what? ha

So that didn't work as planned. tried to cover and nada. oh well. but later after i did recovered by texting her about a week later.

Me: heyo whats up with you
Her: lol sorry i havent been texting back, been busy.
Me: Iv'e been busy too, but that's no excuse for you ...tardiness isn't a fashion, don't play coy thinking texting late is being "cool"
Her: im not playing "cool" i just am tardiness is a fashion that never goes out of style

so we were off to a good start in person, got blown up 1st texting, now i don't want to neg her anymore but was thinking of replying with something like 'we'll see when i pick you up tommorow' or something to that effect.

lemme know what you think, i ordinarily wouldn't fret, but this chicks friend material.

Hi Don!

Youre really taking one for the team here. Appreciate it!

My Text-game is kind of bad i would say and now im stuck at a point and wonder how to get moving from this, if it is even possible..


Me: Hi journalistgirl! Im home sick and boored so you have to help me with some cozy music to listen to.

Her: Random band name.

Me: Wow! that was intensive. Cozy i said. Now come one!

Me: What now? i dont get any help?

Her: Random band. If you dont like this we gonna have to send you to soulbootcamp.

Me: Wait..you dont even know who i am right? That was better, now i can cure myself to some whisky..

No answer..


Weird part was when i met her she seemed very talkative and nice, now she was just booring and cold.

If you want more info its my post "Next step with older woman"

Thanks man!

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