THREAD UPDATE:

Thanks for the suggestions. It's fucking over though. That cunt had some dude call me back and threaten me, telling me not to call her again. That I was "stalking her". What a joke. I've never had that happen before.

HB 11 sure, I didn't think she was such a bitch but I guess so.

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Sorry to hear that bro. But it is a numbers game till you refine your approach. We all have to go through that and it fuckin' hurts. I try to not get too attached in case it doesn't work to lighten the blow, but it's not always the case. I think if I can keep myself from doing so will also benefit me by not giving out any needy energy... it's something Ross Jeffries harps on which he calls "Non-attraction non-disinterest" which is a work-in-progress for myself. Hope this means something to you

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"Chivalry isn't dead. It is widely used by many men who end up being 'just friends' to every woman they ever meet" -- Vinuzzio

WOW! Dude, i touch on wood, i think that is the worst "rejection" i EVER heard.....

Man I seriously think what happened to you is what I warned you about in my first post: you became her homework/classroom buddy, I think she just used you, her kinda being like a "hired gun" giving fake IOI just so you could help her.....And cz you thought the IOI were real and you presumed good attraction she got creeped out, especially if she is an "11"....

So next time be very careful, when a girl asks you for help (one you are attracted to), make her do something in return, like you are giving sooo much value with all the HW help but she is just giving fake value in return....think about this and how you can turn it around...

I'm sure throughout ur life hot girls will ask you for help, so make them give you even more value than you gave in return, "your time is money" and not everyone deserves it

Cheers

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V3nu

OMG! man I just realized your story is a PERFECT opinion opener! I'm definitely gonna try it out, even not as an opener but a really good conversational thread!!!! And because we were involved in discussing this it makes the thread much more interesting and fun!!

That's like my problem with opinion openers, is that i really don't give a shit about them so i have a hard time delivering them but this one....tnx man hahaha

See how fast we converted a loss into something good (not counting the experience)

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V3nu

Oh and ps one more thing I just realized while making the opener, you said you called her and when she didn't answer you specifically said: "how did you do on the test", so you were basically seeking rapport without attraction and of course she got creeped out, instead you should had just txted her like: "dude! wtf! how did the professor know I helped you ???? o.O (and maybe make up a little story, like he called you over after class etc)"

Cheers

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V3nu

I shouldn't have to work that hard to NOT creep out a girl. If she is that much of a bitch than whatever. I wasn't begging for attention, I just thought that she might have missed the call.

And, I wouldn't have wanted to just go out and say that the professor was talking to me about studying with her; IMO that is really creepy.

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Dont you have a picture? Im really curious

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Failure was never an option


Because girls don't like sex.. Yeah RIGHT!
Why else do you think girls have P*ssies

^life lesson^

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- I have a bit of experience in the field as a natural. But I'm getting lonely these days. I'd like to get some good oneitis going with a girl that reciprocates. So I'm trying to tailor the game to my interests.

just a reminder " in order to get somethin , you have to be willin to risk losin it "

True that. I love this one:

"He who fears being conquered is sure of defeat."

That couldn't be more true with women.

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Sorry to hear that bro... This is a huge ass learnim experience though and it took a lot 2post that on here 4 evry1 2 see it.

Hey sorry to see how it all ended. I just read the whole thread and only have one thing to say...

Boiler the fuck up!!

Not to be a prick, but I saw that ending coming as soon as you posted the story of your study session...

A lil background so you know where I am coming from, I have not studied ANYTHING, I am actually the guy that you are trying to emulate, I have always been really good with girls.


First off, all this talks of negs being not worth it? its bull, you use a neg all the time, regardless of how highly the girl thinks about herself, ALWAYS NEG!!! but remember negs are NOT random insults, they are waiting for her to do something silly, out of place, or mean...and then PLAYFULLY make fun of her for it.

When she said no to lunch, the absolute WORST thing to have done is ask to meet up at a different time, it doesn't matter how you do it, it sounds like begging, never do this again

If you call her and there is no answer, DONT CONTACT AGAIN, let her contact you, again...no matter how you do it, if you contact her more than once without a response it seems like begging (Is there a better way to say "Please talk to me")

Only give a girl possitive feedback if she behaves exactly how you want her too, if you do it at any other time you are the one looking for a reward, that is NOT the posistion you want to be in.

And yes, one-itis is bad, NO MATTER WHAT, It will change how you game her everytime, every god damn time, and almost always ruin it.

Never let the girl initiate the end of any situation, you have to leave...everytime, remember, you are an alpha, you have places to be and shit to do, hanging out with her is a favor to her

You want her to think "who is this guy, and why do i want him so bad" not "who is this wierdo, why is he so obsessed with me"

remember, I am not trying to be a dick, just pointing out mistakes.

100% Agreed hybrid...well said

your problem is you're trying to be safe, putting her on a pedestal and not wanting to "screw it up". by having that attitude you've already screwed it up. you were acting all AFC over a HB11? seriously...being the nice guy and all that stuff. the best that could happen was that you 2 would be friends, the worst that would happen would be that you'll be the creepy guy in the elevator. by not negging her and DHV-ing, you've lost the game.

the whole point of learning a new game is because the old "nice guy" game never works, at least not in HBs...don't display interest. move on, and change your game. build social proof around campus, so the next time she sees you she'll WANT to hang out with you. in the meantime just move on..