Great post Chief. Sexual tension is so clutch. It's foreign to me that you don't "do" relationships however. I feel youre coming at it from a narrow evolutionary perspective; one of raw animalistic tendencies. This is comprehendable as we are all engineered to reproduce. However humans are an evolved species. We have the capacity to reason. We have the ability to create and abide by an ethical code of conduct.

With that being said, monogamy with a significant other sooner or later should be a goal. We all hear the research studies on how people who are lonely die earlier then those who are happily involved with another. Shit, this goes for loving your fucking pets as well. Theres an inherent necessity to be one part of a whole; a part of something better than yourself. To love and be loved on a level that goes beyond the self I believe approaches divinity.

Now I realize you will probably rebuttal with some branch of constructivism theory, I just personally believe theres someone out there for you man! Plus.... your mom wants fucking grand kids.

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You'd think I'd give a rebuttal that would argue against all monogamy or something to that effect... but I wont.

I want to say that I'm currently at a stage in my life where I don't want to consider monogamy. I just want to have fun and have open sexual encounters and FWB relationships. I think that's normal for a 19 year old male. It might even be normal for any male of any age with my personality type. Who knows? I've told myself that I don't want to get married or have children, but I'm leaving the possibility open that I could very well change my mind later. My goals are constantly changing as I go through life and thus change is something I no longer run from out of fear.

If, by the time I am 30 (or whatever age), I still just want to have this same lifestyle, so be it. I'll be happy. If I change my mind and seek something else, so be it. I'll pursue whatever that is. I'm not going to resist maturity, whether it takes me toward monogamy, the same lifestyle I have right now, or anything else.

Right now, however, sexual liberation is my main focus when it comes to my relationships in the "Health, Wealth, and Relationships" triad of life endeavors. Since the present tense is the only tense that actually exists, I won't concern myself with the dynamics of the relationship goals I may or may not have in the future. I've been making great strides in my current goals and anyone with the same or similar goals can most certainly benefit from these lessons I have discovered.

So, to whoever reads this article I have written, please take as much as you can out of it! It'll get you laid. From there, YOU decide where you want to take your relationships in life. Be sure to post your FRs and LRs! I love hearing about how others have benefited from the value they got out of this forum.

Oh.. well shit. That makes sense. You're only 19? Wow. I thought you were at least mid 20s. Ya, I have been anti relationship since my hs gf. just got to serious.. felt tied down in my prime. Now, 6 years later, I'm open to thinking about considering another real relationship, possibly. I feel ya.

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When I was a kid, I overheard my mother having a conversation with her real-estate broker. She told him that she wanted a house with a big tree so that her 8 year old can experience a "tree house".

After showing us a house that didn't have a tree, he brushed the whole thing off telling her, "Don't worry, he'll grow out of it."

Her reply: "That's what I am afraid of . . ."

If we lived naturally, unhampered by our religious systems, government systemes, financial institutions, etc . . . I think a 14 year male kid would/should be FUCKING 10 times a day. (This is when hormones kick in right?) This is when a kid's mind goes nuts and twirly when a hot girl walks by becuase the chemicals in his brain go into overdrive, correct?

However, what are we taught at that age?: "This is wrong. . . You're too young." Hell, in much of the World, they make it seem like you're too young to even jack off!) Is there any question why there's so much aggression in the World? It's repression without any recourse for an outlet of for this incredibly powerful energy.

If you're a young man, this thread is your game. Get out there, run it, and have fun with it.

Still . . . I think you should be careful with this style of game. When you focus ONLY on sex(this energy is that powerful) you could disregard other energies in life. Many guys I know who run this type of game are loners and lack deep relationships, even with other males. And this is the age when you are best able to create friendships that last a life time. Like the "tree house", "creating deep friendships" also has its moment in your personal timeline.

I don't think one has to even think about taking it to another level or shifting gears. Fufill the requirement of the your personal energies that flow most powerfully now. Things will shift on its own eventually. . . and another prosective of the game will find you. As Chief suggests, focus on NOW. This is a very good thing.

Opposites attract on a personality level but initial attraction stems from likeness. This is all very confused in the real world as the majority of people (bell curve) dont have defining looks/appearance and people are forced to use environmental or verbal clues to determine likeness which is potentially flawed since pickup has methods to generate attraction by way of faking alike social value.

The likeness factor is much more apparent in online game as people have more information and more time to think and their internal beliefs are a lot more apparent. This is more obvious to me as I do have defining looks. long hair stereotypes me as a rock/metal type. Which Is the truth. I've never needed to spend that much time online sending messages as alike women will open on me. Conversely doesnt really matter what I say to women who are clearly not rock chicks as one look at me and they're thinking why I am even talking to them. I've had messages to that effect.

This tells me its a lot easier for attraction to generate with someone who feels the likeness. On the odd occasional Ive got into a conversation where we're clearly unalike and it's obvious they're replying more out of politeness, Ive been able to turn initial impressions into interest by demonstrating knowledge of things they like. It just so happens I know a little about a lot of things.

I completely agree with chief's sexual frame explanations. Attraction doesnt automatically equate to wanting to have sex, trouble is I think there's plenty of women who will take whats available on attraction alone. This is different from genuinely turned on and wanting it bad which is a whole lot more powerful. As chief observed there are guys who are overtly sexual and this is just how they are. A lot of the nice guy/bad guy themes revolve around nice guys not expressing sexuality. It might be the case that natural bad guys are at the other extreme.

This also related to how we all hate canned laughter on tv shows but in the moment we cant help laughing when we hear someone else doing it, even when we know its fake. thus When someone makes sexual reference in non creepy way, we cant help thinking about it.

The beauty of the english language is double entendres. innocent phrases that have sexual connotations. Even if it seems like you didnt do it on purpose the thought will cross their mind. Or online do in on purpose and wink afterwards in a playful way. Womens attitudes to sexual attraction is usually a direct response to most guys who start off in that frame and it totally turns them off. Start off with attraction and you can build up sexual attraction. I'm fairly natural at this online, turn of phrase is a wonderful thing. I'm naturally playful in that environment. start off subtle, then playful and then overt all intermingled with push/pull, changing the subject etc and if you do it right they cant stop thinking about you. Once you get to overt tapping into how things you might do would make them feel, is unbelievably powerful.

In real world tho maybe you cant go as far as frank explicit conversation but the principle remains the same. The interesting thing about sexual attraction is when women feel it intensely they start wanting to do things of their own accord and when they want something they're inclined to start trying to persuade you to do stuff. Its like having a frame of "if i was so inclined I could give you a sexual experience the likes of which you've never experienced" if they believe you and you're not directly suggesting it, which guys normally would they're wondering why and want to persuade you otherwise.

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That's exactly the type of limiting-belief-based mindset I'm arguing against. You're slowing yourself down that way and over-complicating seduction.

All attraction is sexual. Everything else is pretty much "comfort" and is useless without a strong emphasis on attraction in the first place.

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I thought I just said that in a round about way .I think your confusing mindset with inherent nature on some of that. There's a subtle difference. Everything *is* complicated to me. Doesnt mean my overcomplicated views of things are invalid. it isnt that I thought it up then did it, its probably an overcomplicated explanation of something that works for me.

Dont know why but that frame is the same frame work I read from "Mode One" by Allen Rogers.
In Summary: when you tell a girl you want to f#ck the shit out of her straight up and be upfront about your intentions ,she will f@ck you and think your a jerk. Funny fast is accordin to david X its the jerks who get laid more often.

This has nothing to do with the nice guy/jerk paradigm. Don't let yourself fall into that mindset. Sexuality has nothing to do with good or bad, nice or selfish. It's just human nature.

hmmmm
does anybody have videos of this being used??
im not doubting it at all, id just love to see it

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Right here, buddy:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQiRtJ6uumk[/youtube]

I totally overlooked this question from the first page: Sorry about that. I'll answer this question now.

Imagine tasting a small spoonful of your favorite flavor ice cream in the whole wide world and multiply the awesomeness of that flavor tenfold. You feel the delicious molecules from the food tickling your taste buds as you ascend into oral ecstasy. How do you feel about that? You open your mouth and the following words flow out: "I like it. I want more."

Now imagine getting a bank statement that says you are almost in the red. Your monetary funds have depleted for whatever reason. You feel a panicking sensation emerge from within your center of gravity, knowing that you need to find something to fill that massive hole in your bank account. You see a rich man walk by wearing a fucking suit made of 100 dollar bills. You find yourself practically gravitating toward this man. How do you feel about this? You open your mouth and the following words flow out: "I need it. I want it."

Expressing sexuality and desire like an alpha male is like getting a small taste of the ice cream that is woman through simply looking at her. He wants more because it feels good. He tells her that she's sexy because he means it. His penis means it.

Complimenting like an AFC is exactly like having a sense of lack, thinking that you can replenish your self-esteem by essentially taking some from a beautiful woman. He sees her and feels some sort of hope that maybe, JUST MAYBE, she can save him from validation bankruptcy. He tells her that she's sexy because he wants something from her.

this is a sick post man

Sorry bout that.

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