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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:11 am 
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I generally say, "Really? Want a new one?" with a big 'ol smile. At that point, you really can tell if she's lying or not by her body language. Other things it tells you if she's really sick of her bf or not. Goes something like this:

Her: "I have a boyfriend"
Me: "Really, for how long?" or "Really? want a new one? how long have you been together?"
Her: <some sort of answer> If she says less than a year, move on, they're still in the lovey, emotional stage, nothing will break that. Anything over a year, have to watch her body language and congruence. If her answer is with a hint of sadness, lips turned down, flash look down of shame, etc. She's open to go for.
Me: "Does he treat you right?"

Her: "Wellll yeah" One of those, sort of 'kinda, sorta' responses - go for it, she's either lying or miserable in the relationship and maybe looking for a way out or just wants to get laid cause her bf sucks. :-)

Her: "Yeah, he does" Her smile is bright, cheery.... she's into the dude, move on, there's ALOT more fish in that sea but I always respond with:
Me: "That's great, cause the SECOND he doesn't, I am so there....here's my number" This has worked for me 50% of the time, you stick in their mind and they'll be back cause you handled the rejection with finesse. Then when she does come back, maybe you don't want HER now......makes them want you more. :-)


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:45 am 
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This came up a few weeks ago, this response got her laughing and giving me more IOIs... I'm still new at game so I didn't even number close her, but it was fun in the moment. :) She actually DOES have a boyfriend..

Me: "Really just one? Cuz I have 12 girlfriends... They each have their own unique ...powers. I have a cook, a driver, a kungfu master... What's your special skill?"

Her: Whatever bullshit

Me: "Meh I already have one of those. But you know what? I need an explosives expert. So you and my social engineering girl can go out and rob banks."


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:25 am 
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Here's an idea. How about walking away and having a bit of dignity? You can't always get what you want. If she says she has a boyfriend why not leave it at that? Maybe she said it because she actually DOES have one or maybe she said it because she doesn't like or fancy you?

Everything is always about what YOU want isn't it. No matter what the girl says you're so desperate you'll think up everything under the godamn sun to get YOUR WAY. It doesn't matter what the girl says because YOU completely ignore it. It's all about YOU and as a man you have every RIGHT to get what you want. You'll bully, harass, won't take no for an answer to get someone who has made it very clear that she doesn't even fucking fancy you. The signals are there but you think you're so fucking superior that she WILL go out with you and like it whether she wants to or not. Me man. You woman. I want you and no matter what it fucking takes I will have you and then when you do get them you don't even know how to have a fucking relationship with them. You're all so pathetic it beggars belief.
You have a good point, but it's okay to still be her friend right?

I mean, walking away is rude. Sarging isn't about forcing her to bed or being desperate... it's about being a fun person! If you're fun about it, they might realize "Hey, this guy is cool" and get comfortable enough to be good friends with you!

Then, you can use her as social proof, or if she's willing, make out with her later. She might even be looking for another boyfriend. These are all just benefits!

But if you walk away, you just lost a friend. She might have said that to tease you, and if you leave she might feel bad. Remember you're there to make friends, have fun, and give off a good vibe! You seem like you're trying to give off bad vibes, whether it's your intention or not... Girls will be able to tell instantly what kind of vibe you are giving off. Just a little constructive criticism, if you are okay with it! :)


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:13 am 
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You're calling it harassing. If it's harassing she won't like it anyway and she'll ASK him to get rid of you.

If she needs to ask her bf to protect her from you.... well my friend, you haven't been doing much right in that case. She doesn't even like you. She hasn't been laughing with you. You haven't made fun of the situation. You haven't disarmed her. She has raised all her defenses against you and you have been much too forceful and socially ignorant (ignoring the no-go areas set by social standards) to get closer to her.

WTF you doing I don't know, but if this is your perception of what "gaming" is like, then you're a real bad player.
I don't care if you're Casanova himself. Go ahead and try to hit on a girl in front of her boyfriend at a bar/club. If she's anything close to good looking, then I guarantee you that her BF (and his buddies) will have enough self respect to raise the issue with you. And by raise the issue, I mean take you outside the club for a "chat". Good luck bud. My advice is to use the fedora to guard your pretty face while you're getting kicked on the ground.
My game might be horrid. You can even assume I've never kissed a girl. However, unlike you, I have enough street experience/social acuity to know how the real world works, and what you can and can't get away with. Unless you are a mobster or a titan, you will not be getting away with hitting on someone's girlfriend in front of them, and especially at a place like a club.
PS. I've beaten and been beaten in a boxing ring on multiple occasions (by people probably literally two times your size), but I have the common sense to have never been involved in a street fight. If you act the way you keyboard jockey, then its only a matter of time for you. And remember, there's no referee in a street fight to stop it when you go down. Is that pussy still worth it?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:56 am 
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Ask "Whats his name?"

See how long she takes to respond... If she hesitates, she is lying and jokingly call her out on it.
A variation on this

Ask " What type of car does he drive? "

Girls could think of a name easily but thinking of a car would be much less natural. And every girl knows what type of car her boyfriend drives he she really has one.

and if she comes back quickly with a type of car, you can use that and say something along the lines of "well a car says a lot about a man. Your boyfriend is dependable but not adventuous" then you can go into how going out with you would be adventuous etc


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:39 am 
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Put your arm around her, smile confidently and say "well, he better not find out then."
Haha yeah.. Last time I was out hitting on a girl: It was a quick encounter but I noticed interest directly, she said she had a boyfriend, I said "well.. since he's not here right now, why don't we make out "violently" right now". She hesitated but said no- we hugged instead. Her friend peeing behind a bush probably influenced her decision and I don't get pushy in those situations..


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:41 am 
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I don't care if you're Casanova himself. Go ahead and try to hit on a girl in front of her boyfriend at a bar/club. If she's anything close to good looking, then I guarantee you that her BF (and his buddies) will have enough self respect to raise the issue with you. And by raise the issue, I mean take you outside the club for a "chat". Good luck bud. My advice is to use the fedora to guard your pretty face while you're getting kicked on the ground.
My game might be horrid. You can even assume I've never kissed a girl. However, unlike you, I have enough street experience/social acuity to know how the real world works, and what you can and can't get away with. Unless you are a mobster or a titan, you will not be getting away with hitting on someone's girlfriend in front of them, and especially at a place like a club.
PS. I've beaten and been beaten in a boxing ring on multiple occasions (by people probably literally two times your size), but I have the common sense to have never been involved in a street fight. If you act the way you keyboard jockey, then its only a matter of time for you. And remember, there's no referee in a street fight to stop it when you go down. Is that pussy still worth it?
I'm not saying I'm a good player myself. I'm just saying I can imagine ppl with more social acuity than me chatting up a girl a bit in front of her bf. If her bf likes you, it can be a pleasant experience. Some ppl here say acknowledge the bf and then ignore him. I don't think that's wise. The kind of 'superior man' I imagine some good players to be would disarm both the bf and the gf. I've never done anything like that but I know being liked by her friends is important. So I agree with you in that blatantly hitting on the girl in front of the guy while trying to completely shut him out and ignore him, would not be a smart move.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:27 am 
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i go with "Oh yea?" followed by a condescending hi-5, "you want a cookie?" or "hows that workin out for ya?", then game as normal but work in some strawman. I don't ever whip my dick out to try and trump a bf, just comes Across as attention needing and seeking validation.

However, when i can tell it was a bs line, I will ramp up kino a little faster.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:13 pm 
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Here's an idea. How about walking away and having a bit of dignity? You can't always get what you want. If she says she has a boyfriend why not leave it at that? Maybe she said it because she actually DOES have one or maybe she said it because she doesn't like or fancy you?

Everything is always about what YOU want isn't it. No matter what the girl says you're so desperate you'll think up everything under the godamn sun to get YOUR WAY. It doesn't matter what the girl says because YOU completely ignore it. It's all about YOU and as a man you have every RIGHT to get what you want. You'll bully, harass, won't take no for an answer to get someone who has made it very clear that she doesn't even fucking fancy you. The signals are there but you think you're so fucking superior that she WILL go out with you and like it whether she wants to or not. Me man. You woman. I want you and no matter what it fucking takes I will have you and then when you do get them you don't even know how to have a fucking relationship with them. You're all so pathetic it beggars belief.
This is why I love living in a right to carry state where I have the freedom to carry a gun! I don't have the time nor the patience to just talk with, mess around / compete with, or use too much energy to physically teach someone who is disrespectful and selfish enough to try to steal from me and knock me down for his own personal gain that this is not the right thing to do. If you have total disregard for me as a person and are willing to f*ck up something that's good between me and my girl for your own personal happiness, then I also have the right to do whatever makes me feel good in response as well without caring about how it affects you or how you feel as a person. Right?

Like Dr Dre said in his song "say what you say" with Eminem,
"You f*ck my night up I'mma f*ck up your day...."
(You can google the lyrics to see what the next line says, by the way. Not sure if it's appropriate to post here.)





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Lets say the boyfriend is not around. That's a different story. Whatever happens when the other person is not around is pretty much what it is. This is why when I'm with any girl that I like and things are going well, I try to be THE BEST man I can for her to make it harder for any other guy to have a chance. Anytime I get close to a girl I like, I make sure I do my best to be so so good that I automatically ruin it for any other guy who tries to steal her. But if they still manage to get her (and keep her long term) in the end, then obviously they are better off together since they both fulfill each other's personal needs more.


By the way, I wouldn't shoot anyone (well I surely hope I'll never have to). I think just knowing that I have an open carry would be sufficient enough to indirectly teach someone not to disrespect me in front of my girl. And yes, I know that if I live in an open carry state then this means others could do the same and carry to. It's not really about carrying a gun. I was simply just trying to make a point; F*ck with me disrespectfully and try to steal my joy for your own personal happiness and you deserve to be taught a permanent life lesson.



I meet a girl who has a boyfriend, I move on. Many times there's another girl who has just as much potential to be mine a few seconds or minutes away that I could talk to just around the corner. If the boyfriend is not around and it's super super obvious that she and I are connecting on a deeper level, then I may flirt, keep it fun and run some game; I'll show her what she could have and leave it up to her to decide where she wants to be. If she becomes confused and it gets to the point where she can't decide between me and the other guy, I may "help her over to my side of the fence." But this would never happen if her boyfriend was around from the get go because I'd have enough respect to leave it alone. Therefore, I would never discover how much I connect with the girl if the boyfriend was there. However, if the unlikely scenario happens where a girl comes on to me in front of her boyfriend, I will not decline.... and I'll just leave it at that for now.

Have a good day folks.


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After she says she has a bf just say "and I have a fish" gets at least a smile cracked everytime!


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Granted , there is a good chance that majority do have legit BF's. but there is no shame for going for it, even in front of her bf.
If he's there - acknowledge him at the beginning, then literally ignore him from that point forward.

So acknowledge him at the beginning, by saying something to him, and then literally try to pick up his girl right in front of his eyes? I'm not saying this is a bad idea, I'm just wondering how you would go about pulling it off. For example, you would just ask for her number right in front of him if you feel like you reached that point? Wouldn't she be reluctant to give it to you while he's there due to ASD?

Your post is really confusing me. On a side not though, I like your two alternative BF Destroyers as opposed to Majikal's. I think both of yours, and his are good. Thanks for the tips guys.

To do this infront of the bf, you tell the girl to introduce you to the bf as "This is my shopping buddy [insert your name]" or "This is my gay friend [insert name]". The boyfriend will be reluctant to cock block you because he is not trusting the girl if he did. Then FTC to the boy friend and say, "2 minutes ... 2 minutes ... I just want to catch up with her." Then isolate her... muahahahhahahaha!

But, you have to be smart, of course, by asking the logisitical question, immediately after you open, saying, "Who are you here with and how do you know them?" ....

This is RSD style ^_^!


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If he's there - acknowledge him at the beginning, then literally ignore him from that point forward.

So acknowledge him at the beginning, by saying something to him, and then literally try to pick up his girl right in front of his eyes? I'm not saying this is a bad idea, I'm just wondering how you would go about pulling it off. For example, you would just ask for her number right in front of him if you feel like you reached that point? Wouldn't she be reluctant to give it to you while he's there due to ASD?

Your post is really confusing me. On a side not though, I like your two alternative BF Destroyers as opposed to Majikal's. I think both of yours, and his are good. Thanks for the tips guys.

To do this infront of the bf, you tell the girl to introduce you to the bf as "This is my shopping buddy [insert your name]" or "This is my gay friend [insert name]". The boyfriend will be reluctant to cock block you because he is not trusting the girl if he did. Then FTC to the boy friend and say, "2 minutes ... 2 minutes ... I just want to catch up with her." Then isolate her... muahahahhahahaha!

But, you have to be smart, of course, by asking the logisitical question, immediately after you open, saying, "Who are you here with and how do you know them?" ....

This is RSD style ^_^!
Every time I post on this board I'm reminded how many aspies go in to PUA. Hitting on another man's girlfriend in front of him is the equivalent of you slapping him in public. It is the most blatant challenge you can throw to another man. If you don't think there are consequences for behavior like that, it means 1. you've never done it, and 2. you probably suffer from aspergers or 3. You are a well known mobster.
If you think that this works because you've done it, then I suggest you stop hitting on whales at bronycon and comicon and try this on a real HB at a club. Let us know how it goes.


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I first saw this off an infield footage by Julien from RSD. He used it on the actress from Dexter, Rita (aka: Julie Benz) with her husband right there beside them. I think she is pretty hot... But, maybe she is a whale or a bronycon or comicon to others :p.... But, they probably hired her to play that role ... and then put that footage on their product to lie to their customers like me .... damn I am such a fool for falling for it .... hahaha

Hehehe ... I have been trying it. I try whenever I have the chance, to uglies, to fatties, to HBs ...

Consider why it would work. The girl is introducing you .... why would the boy friend go against her trusts? But, hahaha ... you guys decide if it works or not. Try it out ^_^! I promise amazing results!


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How on earth are you going to get a girl you've never met to introduce you as her shopping buddy when you haven't had time in private?

In the book The Game, Mystery hit on some girl in a bar in Serbia(?) by isolating her from her supposed bf and his buddies. While trying to leave the bar with her the guy pulled out his gun. Or was about to. Mystery bluffed his way out by saying that the magic trick he had done to a bottle, he could do to the guy's braincells as well. The guy let him go.

I think that falls in the category of being a well known mobster, lol.


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How on earth are you going to get a girl you've never met to introduce you as her shopping buddy when you haven't had time in private?

In the book The Game, Mystery hit on some girl in a bar in Serbia(?) by isolating her from her supposed bf and his buddies. While trying to leave the bar with her the guy pulled out his gun. Or was about to. Mystery bluffed his way out by saying that the magic trick he had done to a bottle, he could do to the guy's braincells as well. The guy let him go.

I think that falls in the category of being a well known mobster, lol.
Check out RSD ...

You use an Opener called the hand of God. It's when you stick out your hand towards a girl and she grabs it. When she grabs it you pull her in close towards you. By her grabbing your hand shows compliance to everyone watching you. To do this you have to fully assume that this will work. It can't be half ass attempt to do it. Hence then name the "hand of God" ... It's like when you stick out your hand you are partying a sea of clouds and all she see is God in front of her. Here is an infield footage at 11:15 minutes of the hand of God...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFTR9jNkeCg

But, instead of telling the girl "Who are you her with and how do you know them" ... you replace it with "Introduce me as you Gay Friend [Insert name] ..."

This all happens with in like 30 seconds of the approach!


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