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Update...

I was away for the weekend so we hadn't any form of contact (as expected and as I wanted too).
This afternoon she texted me for us to meet for the jogging session:

She: "Hi, so let's burn some calories?"

2 hours later

Me: "Hi! Burn some calories? :wink: ...Today I can't go with you." (I used the smiley to put some sexual content in the msg)

She: "...So I'll go by myself... Be carefull, you may lose your momentum." (see bellow the explanation)

1/2 hr later

Me: "No, no I won't! :) "

Then no reply from her.

Today I wasn't in a mood for jogging (not too much sleep last night) and I also wanted to show her that I'm not always available everytime she asks me to meet her.
The momentum thing came from a previous text, a few days ago...she said she could not jogging an I told her that is she fails a lot like this I might lost the momentum for jogging everyday...or almost :? Sometimes I can be a bit lazy)

Tomorrow I think she will ask me again (as usual) or because today I told her no, maybe she won't (which would be a good sign). If she won't, I will text her one hour before the time we usually meet... or shouldn't I?

Anyway, if I meet her tomorrow, probably she will try to know why I said no today. Then, the reply will be "I was doing my laundry. I didn't invited you because of your back pain!" :lol: (to understand this one see this post: -img-src-http-cdn2pick-up-artist-forumc ... tml#697695)


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As expected, she invited me for a coffee. :wink:

She touch twice the topic of being thinking that I was pissed off because she flaked last week. I said "If it happen to me to be pissed off because of that, my life would be miserable. You gave me a good reason to decline my invitation, so no problem."

She was loose (as I've never seen her), always curling her hair in her fingers, playing a lot with with her bracelets but unfortunately she was time limited due to a family birthday tonight.

Now it's time for values elicitation and sexual innuendos.
Need your oppinion about beginning it by asking her for how long she's a divorcee. It will open the door for a wide field of opportunities. 8)


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Too much chatter and not enough action!.

Talk about subjects of interest to you and not about her problems.

You need to get her out one evening or at your/her place.

Drinks, kino, food, drinks, kino et voila:)


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Too much chatter and not enough action!.


Yeah, think that too. In spite of that, it's good that things are having a progression in the right direction. A litle slow, but straigth ahead.
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Talk about subjects of interest to you and not about her problems.
I mentioned her divorce because it doesn't seem to be a problem for her. Those are past waters, a bump in the road.
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You need to get her out one evening or at your/her place.

Drinks, kino, food, drinks, kino et voila:)
We both have our kids at home so it might be difficult...although possible. :wink: In fact, she complained that her daught is always at home and she can't even go out for a coffe. That's a good indication. :)


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Definitely too much talk and not enough action. It's almost painful to read because you can feel the awkward tension growing. It's way past time to set up a serious date with her and take some action with her. You're going to have to escalate and take a risk. She may even be waiting for you to do that. If you don't you seem weak. And if you do and she rejects it, I'd play it cool and try one more time. After that I'd honestly say you have to decide if you just want to be friends with her or drop this.

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It's almost painful to read because you can feel the awkward tension growing.
Well, it's getting less and less awkward every time we meet.
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It's way past time to set up a serious date with her and take some action with her. You're going to have to escalate and take a risk.


Well, I'm not sure if it's way past time. I'll explain this better...I'm not bragging, I'm just explaining why Ithink it's taking so long.

Usually, I'm not a risk taker regarding girls. The result is that I'm used to have girls picking me up which is confortable enoug for me. Obviously I'm not always fucking new girls, but the frequency is ok.
I don't consider myself a good looking guy but somehow I have girls picking me. I don't know what I do to them but I follow some strategy that makes them crazy enough to jump on me after a certain amount of time that, in terms of pickup, is too long. ... And I sense this girl is almost at the "jumping point".

But this is no good, I reckon. One of the reasons why I've been here is because I want to be the one who chooses and not the other way.

I think you're right...it's time to escalate full to the top in a single move. For this one I'll take the risk because I think she deserves it. 8)


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You do not mention age of her daughter.

If she is at school then you have all day to have a little 'lunch date' out or at her place followed by whatever.

You must find a way to isolate and kino. Get her in your arms and k-close like a man.

She is waiting.


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I'm starting to think this thread should be moved to the field reports to show the do's & don'ts (more don'ts, so far). :lol:

Today I woke up with an invitation from her for "our gimnastics", as she wrote, and a coffee later. It seems her daughther is having dinner with the father.
I replied: "Hi, be carefull, if "our gimnastics" is taken out of context could mean a completely different thing. :D See you later."

She didn't replied.

I seems this girl is chasing me. :lol:
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You do not mention age of her daughter.
She's 10. As I said before, her daughter feels a lot of insecurities when she's not with her mother. When we go for a coffee, her daughter calls every 15 mins to know what her mother is doing. And this kind of behaviour is promoted by her mother (ex, they sleep together in the same bed). So, she only has some free time, at max, 1 day per week and only for a few hours (wich is enough, but she's always with her daughter in the back of her mind.

A move as going to her place must be made later, if things work out. Not before...unless shes asks for it. :wink:
She has her work too so there are not much possibilities for us to meet there alone.

So, tonight I got to get out of my confort zone.


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So, tonight I got to get out of my confort zone.
Yes, this is key!

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I also would not try to sexually escalate via text with this woman at all.

Just use text to make arrangements.

Escalate in person. Women are turned on by touch and by the presence of a real man.


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So, tonight I got to get out of my confort zone.
Well, I didn’t. Shame on me!

My intuition, in spite of all the advises here, told me that was not the time nor the circumstances to escalate in an hour and a half. I must be more subtle than that, at this point.
Your advices could lead to two results: she would like it or not. The problem is, if she doesn’t I could be considered as a stalker or a pervert in the building where I live (as I told you, she’s my neighbour). There are some cultural issues here and she’s not a girl that I met in a club or a random chick in the street that I won’t see anymore.

But I reckon also that I was not comfortable with the situation because, as I said, I though it was still too early.

Anyway, I noticed a 180º change in her behaviour when we go to the coffee. In our two last rendez-vouz she was comfortable, she talked a lot, laughed a lot. This was something that puzzled me because in our first meetings she was noticeable uncomfortable, probably because she was feeling as being evaluated by me (frankly, we both were).
This made me think about the reasons for it to happened: she trusted me and fell comfortable or she had categorized me as a friend. :roll:

At a certain point I decided to be creative and asked for how long she was a divorcee. Man, that made her talk…boy, she really needed to talk about that. Basically, she was married for 10 years and was divorced 3 years ago. Her husband was always at work and she was always alone. So, she got fed up and told him to take a hike. Inoticed it was something that she needed to vent but doesn't have nobody to listen to her.

I also told her my divorce story without thinking if the result was ok or not. I simply thought that I should give back what she gave me.

When we got home (each one to their own), half an hour later she texted me:

“I hope you didn’t have the impression that I have a weird temper. I talk too much! It’s not a flaw; it’s just who I am and how I was born.” (she really talked a lot, it seems she also got scared about it :lol: ).

I text her back:” No, I didn’t, I prefer girls like that. In fact, I think you should be careful about me, I’m starting to like your “weird temper! :lol:"

She replied: "That's good!"

Today she didn’t contact me. Maybe she was scared by my last comment or she simply don’t want us to be more than we’ve been or was just busy.

Only time will tell. But now, her reaction will be very revealing. :wink:


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Talk about a 'slow train'.

Oh well, each to their own.

Keep us updated.


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Why do you say LJBF? Note that I have the same oppinion.

I think now she doesn't want to feed any gopes from my sie so probably she will backoff. What would yo do if she keeps calling but just for friendship?

In the meanwhile, as I said in another post, yesterday got the phone number of an ex. coworker I've met last week. So, got to move on.


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What would yo do if she keeps calling but just for friendship?
Freeze her the fuck out!
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In the meanwhile, as I said in another post, yesterday got the phone number of an ex. coworker I've met last week. So, got to move on.
Now your talking Bro :)

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