unfortunately youq pualingo didnt tell you that freez oute breaks rapport also and that causes investment from your target. You pualingo also failed to tell you that freeze outs are also a part of push pull that takes women on an emotional roller coster
and to you disappointment, your pua lingo also failed to tell you that freeze outs are also a part of hot and cold behaviour that saves a relation from becoming boring and in general it keeps from away from turning into a boring prdictable wuss.
Work on your game bud. Too bad

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You know, I appreciate critique, but mindless slander, well, you asked for this..
Unfortunately, the ass clown that you are, you forgot that breaking and re-establishing rapport is something which seems a good idea, in the initial stages of the relationship. They have already got to the point where they text/call each other everyday. "Breaking Rapport" will just confuse the hell out of her, and him not replying or giving short replies with frustrate her. Either way, she must have no shortage of men willing to give her more attention, so she will NEXT HIM.

Which makes me wonder, if you even have any real life experience to come to this topic and start spouting crap?

Don't answer that. That's a rhetorical question.

Moving on..
I think their monthly cycles take them on an emotional coaster much, much greater than some "freeze out" would, but then again if you would've been with an actual living, breathing woman you'd have know that already. But, I cannot answer for your personal La-La Land. Maybe, it must happen a lot there.

I think I'm leaning more and more towards labeling you a "Keyboard Jockey" now.


Uh, what saves relationship from becoming "boring prdictable wuss" is equal efforts in terms of time and commitments towards it, from both the parties involved. Not some PUA routine, Mystery. You want to have a great relationship, you talk to each other, you tease each other, you go on drives together, maybe try out that new place which opened up around the corner, you help each other.. that, and not "freeze out".

Frankly, I could turn this into a Hate Speech against Keyboard Jockeys and their antics, but I don't have the time or the inclination to do so. Next time, before you come into other people's yards, remember to bring some "real life experience" or you will be dealt with punishments much, much worse than this one.

Good luck.

For your own sakes, I hope you take my words more as an encouragement for your improvement, and less as the insult to your intelligence, as they came out.

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Firstly, very good question. :)

When I tell people here to text her as long as you want, I don't mean to flood her with texts everyday, even if she isn't replying to you, I mean to keep the conversation flowing till one of you decides to finish it off. And trust me, you or her does not matter.

Now, "will I appear too needy or clingy", well, here's the truth, if you know about NLP and the Framing concept, you must already know that Needy and Clingy are just frames some men project and carry with them, as soon as they open their mouths, women get aware of their states and want nothing to do with them. It's all about frame changing to a frame which obviously makes you open to good conversation, but at the same time not showing too much interest in the target.

As a great, great man once said..

Her: It's hard because this [men hitting on her] happens a lot.

Him : Nothing’s happening, we’re just talking.

It's all about your frame.

Or to put it in layman terms, "Needy", "Clingy" are all states of the mind. If you think like a needy person, you probably behave like one too. And she can notice that.

Have faith in yourself. Look up at the said "needy" behavior and try not to emulate that. When, you are not behaving that way, it won't come off as that way either.

It's that simple. :)

Good luck.

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don you better go out and do some real life game. It would be better for you than to copy information from other sites.
Breaking rapport is always a good idea. Ask afc adam
now she has many men. Heck yeah! Many guys are always chasing her. Now guess what would make you different? Dont be a stupid drapper
now about relations, i wont comment because you didn say anything worth while.
And for God's sake go out in the field and practice. I can swear that i have been in field nonstop in field for 3 years every day and night

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who people you tell don? No one knows you, i can count the guys who ask your questions
don trually showed his unexperiencness in this post.
Let me give you the advance level answers kj
first of all your coming across needy depends on the image that you conveyed in your initiall meeting, if you conveyed the image of a super star who is busy in meetings, shows and then you text her all day, you would come across as needy. And if you conveyed the image of a normal guy then texting a bit more is fine. Makes sense?
Next the frame and blah blah shit that don kj said let me clear that in a more effective way. "whatever you feel at any moment is called your current emotional state and your emotional state is transfered to others" simple
now your question about qualification(drapper avoided it, i guess he couldnt find the answer on a site to copy from)
here is the answer
your dhv is a dhv as long as it doernt come across as you trying to impress them.
If any of ur dhv comes across as you trying to impress them it means you are qualifying yourself( yup qualifiying) and that is a dlv

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Well, looks like Keyboard Jockey here made an astute observation. Well done!

I did not answer the second question, I apologise for that.

Anyway, DHV-ing can be done in two ways ..

Direct method : Girl asks question, you give her answer demonstrating your higher value in the interaction. Textbook.

Indirect method : You get her to ask about it, by "oft-handedly mentioning" something, and not fully explaining it, which will make her curious and she'll ask.

OR

You can tell her that something she said reminded you of the time when.. and insert your DHV story in there.

DHV-ing is DHV-ing when done through text, facebook, on the phone or in-person. It's just something which is supposed to be a proof of your status and value in the society and your peers. As simple as that. But, don't fall into the common trap which many PUAs do by coming off as braggarts. Maybe, you've done a great thing, but be humble about it. That will win your more points than the story itself, in her eyes.

Cheers.

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you are losing your mind man, you are going crazy, he didnt ask how to dhv

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khuram, take a hike.

He asked "Qualification, in respect to DHV". I gave him "How to DHV in ways that it'll be coming across as DHV-ing." ergo not qualifying. At this point, I am starting to doubt whether you have the basic thinking process to even 'get' English words and their meanings.

Anyway, get off this thread. You want to be the ultimate text guru? There's lots of space on this forum, go make your own thread.

What's got your panties in a twist?

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Thanks for the response. And btw, I totally didn't expect my question to blow up like this!

One thing I should mention is that I've known this girl for about 6 months now and I'm starting to worry that I may be on the verge of being friendzoned.

We've made out before and we hold hands, cuddle/spoon, etc. but I haven't f-closed her yet. Anyway, this has started to get me paranoid that I'm entering the friendzone.

Thus, why I wanted to freeze her out for a while.
See i'm not sure if our daily texting is because she's attracted to me, or because she considers me a friend...which is something I'm not interested in being.

are you crazy? You are trying to save your face by saying i am khuram? Blind man, check the ip or email or whatever you can or want. And dont worry. I would be around following you like a stalker

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I used "Hey, something reminded me of you" text.

She responded in a minute with "What's that?". Golden.

Dear fieldmonster,

Don gives good, solid advice to up and coming PUAs. not all of us can approach girls give complete confidence and suave yet. Don helps us newbs learn how to talk and set up dates via text. Without his advice, I would not have had my past 6 day2 dates. Even though his advice is situational and sometimes not what other PUAs would recommend, he is consistently there to help. I dont care if he is sometimes wrong or even takes things from other sites, i am on this site and on this thread specifically because I like this forum and how Don Draper conducts himself. If he takes it from other sites then that means less work for me and more knowledge/wisdom for him to further help other new puas. Even if some advice doesnt work, its like every different method out there, take everything with a grain of salt. But the fact that he is available to help and that the majority of his advice does work, I would and i will continue to ask him for help. If you disagree with someone on this forum who is trying to help and answer the questions of newbs like me, dont bash them on a few mistakes. Lets work toward a brighter future for everyone, be positive and help when you can. dont argue over stupid shit, follow the brocode and try to help everyone get laid, not get anxiety. so if you differ in opinion, just say so without a tirade. just post your opinion/advice and hopefully someone will see that it is worthwhile. This message is to you and others who get aggressive on the forums, there is no need to act that way. You dont need to respond to this, just try to be positive to help everyone get laid in future posts. you may try to bash me for this post but it doesnt matter, i know that my positive outlook will eventually lead me to be a mPUA. ill be the little train that could or the turtle that beats the rabbit, but ill get there eventually. the guys who are here on the forum who are dedicated to help newbs like me, Don, Ryan, Chief and all the mods, i would like to thank you for all your posts and advice. Mohandas Gandhi once said that "A man is but the product of his thoughts what he thinks, he becomes." I think positively, I think i will become a PUA. Hopefully ill get there soon, but with laughter and a smile on my face. I wish you all the best dude, good luck with all the women you have opened and all the ones you have yet to open.

Sincerely,

J Slay

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OK so, i met a girl and we ended up bbming alot, went from general stuff to deep stuff like our past, her ex, my ex, and then about how its good to share problems and she offered to help at any time and what not. so rapport was somewhat there.

Problem is after 2 days she kinda stopped talking to me really, I guess it was too much txting??

the last convo we had was really dry, she was barely responding, responded very slowly, and it was brief responses. So I took my time responding too.

But it seems like I have completely killed it.
From what i have picked up so far from this forum is: NOT to ignore her, but also not to text her first. (shes 2 years older, (24 yo) so that might be an obstacle?

Should I text her late tonight with something interesting that she wont resits responding to? or wait till she texts me?
I have class with her once a week btw.

Oh before she slowed down texting me and stuff we met up once to do homework, I dont think I killed it then. it seemed to be dying already.

Thanks in advance! Don you are incredibly knowledgeable, I have been reading most of the past pages

Well, neither did I, to be completely honest with you, but our friend "fieldmonster" is a regular keyboard jockey on this site, going by multiple names, but we have again banned him. (refer 'khuram')

Well, 6 months is a lot of time without fully closing any girl. It would lead to a lot of investment on your time, which frankly I never recommend. I always advise people to "F-close" girls as fast as they can, because once you are past that stage you will be out of your purple haze concerning her and can view the pro's and con's of continuing a relationship with her more objectively.

So, I think you should start sexualizing the relationship aiming for a night of sexual encounter within you two, ASAP, assuming it's not too late already.

Good luck.

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