Same shit happened to me in a slightly different way. I thought i had game until I met this 22 year old with the same mentality as yours.

She could fuck the shit out of you saying some fucked up crazy shit that in all of my years fucking in Cuba, south America, and Miami ever came across.

Word of advice don't try to play her game thinking that your game will get her hooked and that somehow you will regain your ego on this one. Just cut your looses and move on. Don't give her a fucking inch. you will LOOSE

so you dont think that my emotional reaction to her baggage...aka sugar daddy, crazy sexual past, she pretends to be blind to strangers lol. set her off into a game playing thing and she is actually more normal than i think?

or was her reaction to just unstable and crazy altogther

I don't think your reaction to her was wrong specially if you're looking for a LTR. I'm not even talking about her past but her current situation and actions that happened in your time. I wouldn't be surprised if she suffer from a psychological condition and if she doesn't she's just plain immature.

You need to trust your own judgement and instinct of what is going to be acceptable and unacceptable in your relationships. She sounds like a mess to me and I'm kinda worried that you can't see that clearly. Keep in mind that LTR are not based in mind games but in trust, respect and honesty. Don't let anyone convince you to settle for less.

If you decide to ride that roller coaster I just hope you understand that it was your choice and don't become bitter towards all women. If anything you will learn from the experience.

The correct way to game sociopaths (I should know since I am one) is to provide enough drama to keep them interested. The main mistake you made was you treated her too well. This girl has a low opinion of herself, hence her need to fuck lots of different men in order to feel desired.

Get into her mindset and you will realise she has low self esteem. The only way to keep this kind of girl interested is to treat her in the way she views herself; like absolute shit. You should've cheated on her constantly, thrown her out of your place when she was acting up, locked her out, basically psychologically fucked with her as much as she was fucking with you.

The only problem is, you will only be able to do this if you are a sociopath yourself. If you are the type of person who still feels compassion and sympathy for a bitch who treats you like shit, you will always fail to tame the bitch.

If you can't handle the drama, get rid, block her and find a nice girl who treats you well. But I think the reason why you're so cut up over her is because you're a bit like her... You're a sucker for someone who treats you badly because you also have low self esteem. And also because, just like most girls, you want what you can't have. She's bat shit crazy, but you're posting about her now and you can't stop thinking about her, so from a psychological point of view, she has solid game.

Learn to recognise a masochist when you see one and become a sadist to tame her. To put it simply, treat the good girls good... And the bad girls bad.

Where you fucked up with this girl is you went past step 5. End of story.

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I think part of the reason im so hung up on her, is that she is my neighbor and i see her all the time with other guys. So, it makes me really insecure of my initial decision. like other guys like her enough LOL.

That and she manipulated me pretty bad into feeling guilty lol. I guess the fact that she was able to manipulate me into feeling guilty/like the crazy one was insecurity on my part that i wasnt confident in my decision.

I would assume she has low self esteem as she was buying me presents/cleaning my apt from day 1. like who does that? someone who wants someone else to like them.

She was treating me well when i treated her well. But, when i kind of created conflict because of the sugar daddy thing, she turned pretty nasty and rude. And i guess that made me feel like i had to fix things. So , i kinda see how girls can get stuck in abusive relationships after this experience.

The other part of the reason im so hung up on her, is that i want closure to know if she was really crazy lol. The sugar daddy, pretending to be blind, and manipulation seems like sociopath behavior like you said. but i wonder if i only saw this more wild side of her since we slept together so quick and she was just going through a crazy party phase.

Now you're just making excuses for her and blaming yourself for her bad behaviour, which only shows you have low self esteem yourself. Your self esteem is even lower than hers, that's why she won the battle. It's not surprising that you're still chasing her; you find her the most attractive because she has a low opinion of you and you agree with her, you also share this low opinion of yourself.

How can you expect someone to love you if you don't truly love yourself?

Hunter_Foxe is spot on.

@Hunter_Foxe Dude, who the in the world are you? (Lagron) Just want to chat, log in chat sometime why don't you. Want to see if your head is as mine.

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well, i didnt like her because she treated me poorly. She actually showed tons of interest and did lots of nice things off the bat. Almost so nice that i feel like she did it to get me to like her.

the girl i met two weeks after. Flirted with other guys in front of me, found out she had a long distance bf, etc. And i didnt take her serious at all despite being significantly more attractive than this girl. Like id say on a pure looks level it was 8.5 compared to 7.

I dont know why i am so stuck on her. The last girl that had me reeling was extremely sweet and affectionate. But also had just gotten done with her slut phase and had similar baggage as the girl in the original post. Though, she didnt do the crazy thing where she would call me over and then cuss me out, then call me over again like this girl. it was just done when it was over

You're still talking about the girls. You say nothing about yourself. You fail with women because you're reacting to shit that THEY do to YOU.

If you want be successful with women, YOU need to be in charge, the girls should follow your lead and THEY should react to shit that YOU do.

Right now, you're following instead of leading. That's why girls quickly get bored of you. There's no excitement for them because your behaviour becomes predictable very quickly.

honestly, i havent really pursued that many girls this year. I had a fwb for 4 months that was quite attractive. and ive been starting a new career and moving to a new city.

overall, im happy with how attractive i find the women ive had sex with this year. i would only say maybe after girl (4) in the list, i really felt like i wanted a relationship. As before that i wasnt really texting girls who i got numbers from at bars. as i was saving money, not really interested in dating as i was burnt out.

so far in 2014,





1. one night stand with a 6/10 that i didnt find attractive enough to pursue
2. fwb with a 8/10. we genuinely didnt share mutual interest. lasted 4 months.
3. had a one night stand and booty called a 7/10. lasted 5-6 hookups
4. had a one night stand with a 8/10 that lived 2 hours away.
5. the girl i made this thread about
6. had sex 3-4 times with a 8.5 that had a long distance boyfriend. one of the times i had sex with her, i had picked her up from a failed date with another guy. that was too much shady/bs for me, so i blew her off.

really, the only girl that i really consider pursuing was (2). and it just wasnt a match. i went on a date with number 6, but found her super shady and stuck to calling her only on the weekends when i knew she would be partying.

I almost feel like girl number 5. (this thread) was a one off situation as it was so bizarre. It doesnt seem like she was long term potential from what everyone ive told this story to has said anyways.

ive had 3 girls that i consider 8/10 plus text me back and forth and flake day of date.

and i have 2 dates set up with girls i consider 8/10 this week. and ive been texting a 3rd.

I went into kinda of a shell when i had the hot fwb, but at that stage of the year, i was content on having sex once a week as i was new to my city/career.

and then a bit of a depression over this girl. where i didnt really pursue many girls after

I didn't ask how many girls you've fucked or the scale of their hotness. Any half decent guy with a dick can get laid regularly.

Your problem is you are unable to get girls addicted / hooked on your cock and hooked on your personality. You are still avoiding your real issues:

1) you don't truly love yourself
2) you're not as good in bed as you think you are
3) you have a "follower" not a "leader" personality

Until you address these 3 things, you will continue to get mind fucked by women. But if you're happy with just one-night stands, keep doing what you're doing and dump the girls you start to get feelings for.

lol, none of those girls mindfucked me at all other than thread topic girl. and none of the girls i had sex with blew me off really. the fwb got a bf after 4months.

You got one-itis over a car-crash relationship crazy bitch. If that doesn't scream of low self esteem and beta behaviour, I don't what does.

Whatever. I can't help someone who 1) can't handle criticism and 2) doesn't want to be helped.

I tried.

lol, i can handle criticism. but your pov wasnt accurate. i dont get mindfucked ever and the one night stands , i simply didnt pursue. like didnt even text.

I agree that i have low self esteem. and honestly the reason i fell for this girl is probably because i view myself as flawed and see more potntial in the moment when the girl is too. like think we could actually work. The girl i liked last year, used to be fat in highschool, and slutted around and apparently did some horrible embarrassing things. I never asked mutual friends nor did i care. But we met after she lost weight and got quite hot, but was paranoid id find out about her past history and was very insecure. Like to the point she probably wasnt capable of having a healthy relationship. And i kind of liked her flawed past.

whereas, a normal guy in this situation would just treat her like a slut and not take her serious . or even be grossed out. I actually met a girl in my group of friends who is pretty similar to her looks wise. and gets shit faced and hooks up with random guys all the time. like when i say shitfaced, i mean embarrassingly bad. And i find her repulsive as ive seen the way she acted. So, it makes no sense that a girl acting similarly is still attractive to me.