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Hey Don, this is a follow up on the advice you gave me with this intelligent hard to get girl I caught up with a few weeks ago. This was all on facebook message. She didn't get back to me until a week later after I asked what other skills she has.

She's giving me very short responses, I can't imagine her interest level is very high.


She gave the right response. Real mean aren't intimated. I was trying to suggest that without qualifying myself. I want to respond to her "They're not intimated. In fact they're attracted to it". I'm showing her I'm attracted to her and it's concise, without having to say to her I'm a man.. which is ridiculous. Should I go for it?

Here's the transcript so far


ME: Hey there. It was nice catching up with you today. You're much easier to talk to when you're sober.


HER: Haha it's a skill I have :)


ME: Oh, don't flatter yourself ;) So what other 'skills' do you possess, if I may ask?


AFTER ABOUT A WEEK HER: So many skills lol


ME: Haha oh really? Took you some time to figure that out..Thanks for thinking of me. You're quite empowered, most men are intimidated by women like you, ya know

HER: Real men aren't intimidated
Just hit her back with a "No, they aren't."

So, she likes replying back with short replies? No problems.

You reply back with even shorter ones. :wink:

Trust me, in due time, she'll get frustrated and start talking more.

And another thing, don't give her too many compliments, you want her to know that you are unfazed by her (even if you aren't) and that she'll need something more than looks to win you over. Something extra. Make her qualify herself. Ask her questions, get her opinions on things.

Be vague in your replies. Don't explain yourself or justify your actions.

Maintain a level of slight indifference. And don't buy into her shit tests.

Good luck. Keep me posted. :)

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Met an HB9 on POF... Had a good interaction, got her number. Been txting for 2 days. Exchanging pics, etc. I thought I was going to get the meet, but as soon as I tried to set it up, I haven't heard back. Before the longest I waited for a reply was 20 minutes. Maybe every 7 or 8 messages I would interject some sort of attraction line I usually use, or one I made up. Always seemed to work. I thought I had enough comfort and attraction built up. Usually I can come up with something witty if I get a BS response or something, but I don't know what to do with dead air. Its been 2 days... The last exchange was:

Me: Let's fly to las vegas, get married, argue about our kids names, then grow old lonely n depressed
her: hahah sounds good but i need to be happy
(At this point I thought I had a genius way to transition to a meet)
Me: aha well I guess we can change the story up. lets start by you meeting me out for a drink this weeked.
her: sure :)
me: ive already got plans saturday, but lets set somethin up friday?

never heard back... either she thought I was going to make up another story, or my asking was too forward, or she isnt down.

any ideas? I want to msg something back, but not sound needy... Or I was thinking of just calling her friday....?
Well, two days of texting is still very, very less of a time window to built a significant amount of attraction with a girl you met on a dating site. I always tell people that when they interact with women on a platform where physical, one-on-one interaction is not possible, a greater than normal amount of time and effort is required for her to feel comfortable with your presence in her life.

Unless there's supernatural chemistry between you both, I just don't see her agreeing to see you in two days of texting.

So, for now your focus should be on establishing a basic comfort level between you two, so as to minimise the chances of her flaking on you and also, message her but don't bring it up.

You don't want to sound bitter about this incident, rather take it in your stride. :wink:

Good luck.
This post applies to me as well, actually. I started talking to a cute girl on facebook, we have mutual friends and used to do the same club sport, but never met officially. We had one really good conversation first, I gave it a couple weeks then tried again. Passed the "How do I know you?" shit test beautifully, and she was clearly keen on having a "get to know you" conversation. It went well, in fact the last thing she said before I said I had to go was "You're a character, Slip n Slide, you really are." and we agreed to do it again soon.

Now how do I take this relationship into physical reality? My idea would be to look for an event we would both be potentially going to with friends, and try to meet up with her there, so at least we've met and can proceed to one on one's. How do I elicit those events in conversation? And how long should I wait before trying to take it into reality?

Thanks again for the help, it's nice knowing there's a go-to guy for this and I don't have to flail through these situations until I figure them out.


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I started talking to a cute girl on facebook, we have mutual friends and used to do the same club sport, but never met officially. We had one really good conversation first, I gave it a couple weeks then tried again. Passed the "How do I know you?" shit test beautifully, and she was clearly keen on having a "get to know you" conversation. It went well, in fact the last thing she said before I said I had to go was "You're a character, Slip n Slide, you really are." and we agreed to do it again soon.

Now how do I take this relationship into physical reality? My idea would be to look for an event we would both be potentially going to with friends, and try to meet up with her there, so at least we've met and can proceed to one on one's. How do I elicit those events in conversation? And how long should I wait before trying to take it into reality?

Thanks again for the help, it's nice knowing there's a go-to guy for this and I don't have to flail through these situations until I figure them out.
Well, you are right. You need to set up a situation where she can meet you on a face-to-face level and also, more importantly, feel comfortable in the surroundings. So, a meeting with friends doesn't sound like a bad idea at all.

Now, for the second part, you can just mention this event that you're going out to, and ask her if she might be interested to join you. Tell her that you'll love to her have company, "just saying"-wise. :wink:

As for taking things into reality, a good two weeks is more than enough, provided you guys talk a fair amount. She won't refuse, because she's already gotten used to having you in her life owing to the rather high number of texts that she must've replied to, from your side.

You're welcome, as always.

Good luck.

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Don, I fucked up w/ the chick I liked.... really bad.

I got WAYYYY too drunk this weekend and for some reason I was mad at her. I blacked out and don't remember shit, but my friend told me I was all over her and then got mad at her when she talked to other guys in the club.... i even texted her at one point "why dont u go fuck this other guy instead". I pushed my kino to the limit, like overkinoed the fuck out of her (grabbing her ass and shit) to the point she was uncomfortable, and she even said stop touching me like that and got mad at me. This is not like me at all but I was completely blacked out and I didn't know what was going on... it really wasn't my best moment and she saw it. Supposedly we went to a random guy's house after the club and I was being a dick to him for no reason and even threw his chair in his pool... wtf! I talked to her the next morning and apologized, she was really nice about it but she said "i get really uncomfortable when u touch me like that because we're just friends, so pls try to chill out".... and she was totally right, i definitely crossed the line and it seemed like i was desperate and jealous. This isn't like me at all, but maybe it's a sign that I should take a step back, relax, and not be too into her. I definitely felt that she liked me before but last saturday night definitely ruined my chances with her... i don't know if she will look at me the same anymore, despite how drunk I was. I can't believe I acted jealous as if she was my gf.... I don't know what got into me bro.

Do you think I should forget about this one and move on? I'm just gonna be very cautions and keep my distance when I talk to her, and try to see if I can slowly build attraction again by being myself. If I tell her I like her now, it would be really awkward, and honestly after fucking up so bad last saturday night I feel like it's best for me to not like her that way.

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I number closed a chick on friday . Texted her two days later let's juss say the convo was not that good. My game in person is a whole lot better but my texting game sucks I juss don't know what to say its weird. Any advice don


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[quote="coolbrownie69"]Don, I fucked up w/ the chick I liked.... really bad.

I got WAYYYY too drunk this weekend and for some reason I was mad at her. I blacked out..."

this is when you know that you crossed the line. When you black out and do stupid shit and girls dont reciprocate then u know ur fucked. The deal between u and that girl is over and just try to be friends. this happened to me last year and its the best thing to do. it will be awkward for a little while but later when you are good friends she will set you up with her friends lol

For Don: what happens if you get all the good signals from a girl and tell her to text you the next day (friday) after she's done studying or whatever and she responds "i def will :)" and never does. i texted her back with one witty comment on wedsnday but nothing. its the 2nd week and i havnt texted since, what should i do to rekindle this. or should i go for her twin instead?


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Don, I fucked up w/ the chick I liked.... really bad.

I got WAYYYY too drunk this weekend and for some reason I was mad at her. I blacked out and don't remember shit, but my friend told me I was all over her and then got mad at her when she talked to other guys in the club.... i even texted her at one point "why dont u go fuck this other guy instead". I pushed my kino to the limit, like overkinoed the fuck out of her (grabbing her ass and shit) to the point she was uncomfortable, and she even said stop touching me like that and got mad at me. This is not like me at all but I was completely blacked out and I didn't know what was going on... it really wasn't my best moment and she saw it. Supposedly we went to a random guy's house after the club and I was being a dick to him for no reason and even threw his chair in his pool... wtf! I talked to her the next morning and apologized, she was really nice about it but she said "i get really uncomfortable when u touch me like that because we're just friends, so pls try to chill out".... and she was totally right, i definitely crossed the line and it seemed like i was desperate and jealous. This isn't like me at all, but maybe it's a sign that I should take a step back, relax, and not be too into her. I definitely felt that she liked me before but last saturday night definitely ruined my chances with her... i don't know if she will look at me the same anymore, despite how drunk I was. I can't believe I acted jealous as if she was my gf.... I don't know what got into me bro.

Do you think I should forget about this one and move on? I'm just gonna be very cautions and keep my distance when I talk to her, and try to see if I can slowly build attraction again by being myself. If I tell her I like her now, it would be really awkward, and honestly after fucking up so bad last saturday night I feel like it's best for me to not like her that way.
Sorry, for replying a bit late.

And you're right. That was not a very good thing you did. Always remember, alcohol and pick-up don't mix.

Now, to the next step.. well, I'd tell you to maintain and respectful distance and try to again build attraction with her, but my gut tells me that it's very hard to rise from such a negative perception. Also, her words being "just friends" ring alarm bells, because she has friend zoned you in her head and that is never a good thing.

So, I'd suggest you to keep talking to her, if you want to but move on in terms of building a relationship with her, find someone else, someone new and start afresh.

And always, remember the lesson you learnt here about drinking and gaming.

Good luck.

You're always welcome back for more queries. :)

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I number closed a chick on friday . Texted her two days later let's juss say the convo was not that good. My game in person is a whole lot better but my texting game sucks I juss don't know what to say its weird. Any advice don
Well, the basic issue is that you are treating your "in person game" and "text game" with two different mindsets, which is not appropriate. You are the same guy, aren't you? So, why have two different ways of thinking about the same girl, only when it comes to different modes of communication?

Just do your normal in game stuff with her over the text too. And you should be fine.

Another thing which I couldn't get a hold on is that you felt "weird"? Could you go into a bit more detail about that?

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For Don: what happens if you get all the good signals from a girl and tell her to text you the next day (friday) after she's done studying or whatever and she responds "i def will :)" and never does. i texted her back with one witty comment on wedsnday but nothing. its the 2nd week and i havnt texted since, what should i do to rekindle this. or should i go for her twin instead?
Haha, going for the twin isn't a good option. 'Cause let's face it, sisters talk. If it was picking up twins though, I'd be cheering you on . :wink:

Anyway, see.. it's just the start of your relationship, she's just not going to be the one making all the initial efforts. Most women are hard wired in the way that they expect the guys to take all the initiative early on in the relationship. They want him to lead and dominate, in all areas. But not be too pushy or too clingy, those are turn-offs of the first degree.

So, you can just send her a "Hey, there. Something reminded me of you today." text and she'll reply back, definitely. And then, build from there. Look, if you want her, you need to invest time and effort into getting her. Pick-Up isn't very quick most of the times, it takes it's own time to work. Remember that and game on.

Good luck.

Thanks for thinking of me. :wink:

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So I'm going to this special class with about 15 students and kind of hit it off a little with this girl (HB7.5). The other day I was walking out of the building with her and she gave me her full name to add on Facebook (she initiated it) and I asked for her number. Thing is, I noticed one of the guys from the class kind of waiting on her to finish our convo (we were standing, talking outside the building for 10 min while he was just waiting for her like a puppy) and I got the feeling like maybe they had something planned (a date maybe?).
I tried finding her on Facebook but her name didn't come up. What would be kind of a C&F way of teasing her about her name not coming up on the Facebook search? And should I bring up the other guy in the convo somehow to clear that up?


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Hey, this is my first post here I hope you can help me out! Excuse me for my flawed English it's not my native language.

Yesterday I just got back from holiday with a friend, where we met some other people. One of them was a girl, who during the day would come sit with us 2 occasionly to chat.

We went out with them 3 nights and each night I made out with her. She would also start to sit down with me alone instead of with both me and my friend during the day.

Yesterday me and my friend were leaving and I shared numbers with the girl (she is flying back tomorrow), some hours later she sent:

"Hey there! Did you 2 have a safe flight? I'm constantly thinking you guys would still show up here! I'm already missing you guys! :D See you soon! Xx"

I replied a few minutes later:

"We just landed :) You're right you're missing us! Have fun there and see you soon indeed! Xx"


I'm wondering now if I should wait until she's back to send her something again, or still while she's there, and what? It was obvious she was interested in me as her friends were teasing her with it, and the feeling is mutual.


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Hey, i need some help in "text game"

First, what is the best topics to talk to generate attraction before day2?

I dont like very much to talk by text, or facebook, or msn, i prefer real life :lol:
But its necessary right?

I dont want talk "shit" and loose the attraction before day 2 so Im waiting for help.
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I met a model in a train two weeks ago. We talk during the three hours of travel without any awkward silence. We exchanged numbers. She told me she has a bf but hings were rocky between them. I am not really attracted to her and i would prefer her to be a friend, like that i could meet her model friends ;).

I texted 5 days after and she took a while to respond to my first two texts 30 minutes. I took longer to respond to hers. I was teasing her a bit and telling her we should go together to a museum we talked about. She never responded to that text. i sent her another one the day after without any response. It has been two days now

I am afraid she saw this as a date or she got upset.
What should i do ?

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So I'm going to this special class with about 15 students and kind of hit it off a little with this girl (HB7.5). The other day I was walking out of the building with her and she gave me her full name to add on Facebook (she initiated it) and I asked for her number. Thing is, I noticed one of the guys from the class kind of waiting on her to finish our convo (we were standing, talking outside the building for 10 min while he was just waiting for her like a puppy) and I got the feeling like maybe they had something planned (a date maybe?).
I tried finding her on Facebook but her name didn't come up. What would be kind of a C&F way of teasing her about her name not coming up on the Facebook search? And should I bring up the other guy in the convo somehow to clear that up?
Well, don't bring up the other guy, for starters. You don't care about her relationship with him, you care about yours with her. So, why even think of him?

Now, you can just go on and tell her that, "Yeah, I did search for you. Nothing came up." and she'll definitely be more helpful in showing you her page herself, if you are honest about it. Cocky&Funny is something I do not recommend to people because let's face it, it's an art form to be just the right amount of it, without becoming an outright prick. :wink:

So, good luck. Go ahead and be honest about your situation.

And don't think about other guys. That's her business to deal with, Not yours.

Thanks for thinking of me. :)

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Hey, this is my first post here I hope you can help me out! Excuse me for my flawed English it's not my native language.

Yesterday I just got back from holiday with a friend, where we met some other people. One of them was a girl, who during the day would come sit with us 2 occasionly to chat.

We went out with them 3 nights and each night I made out with her. She would also start to sit down with me alone instead of with both me and my friend during the day.

Yesterday me and my friend were leaving and I shared numbers with the girl (she is flying back tomorrow), some hours later she sent:

"Hey there! Did you 2 have a safe flight? I'm constantly thinking you guys would still show up here! I'm already missing you guys! :D See you soon! Xx"

I replied a few minutes later:

"We just landed :) You're right you're missing us! Have fun there and see you soon indeed! Xx"


I'm wondering now if I should wait until she's back to send her something again, or still while she's there, and what? It was obvious she was interested in me as her friends were teasing her with it, and the feeling is mutual.
Why wait?

Keep messaging her, man!

You made out for three nights consecutively, that's a great hot iron as to say, now keep talking to her either through texts or call her, just to keep striking it, as to say.

She is indeed attracted to you, as evident by her message. So, don't wait. Pass through "GO" and collect your 500 dollars. :wink:

Good luck.

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