Met HB8 at a bar, 21 y/o university student. She is a model. Hit it off with her well, so I try to kiss close, but no go.

End up facebooking her, we meet up for lunch and hit it off again. I walk her home, try to kiss close her but she says "maybe later." Immediately after I leave, I have a text that says, "That was harsh sorry. I want to hang out again soon!" Amazing how important it is to attempt the close, even if you're going to get shut down. I think really hot women just test you to see if you have the balls to do it.

Following day she opens me and tries making plans, telling me how we should go traveling together (we talked about how we both travel a lot), and that we should hang out. She tells me we should get a drink next week. At some point, she mistyped and said "I'm pretty next week" (meaning to say "I'm pretty busy next week"), and I said "you're pretty every week, but I'm free Monday and next weekend. Busy the rest of the week."

Immediate shutdown, conversation stops. Fuck. I've learned my lesson: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/archive/in ... 40989.html. After thinking about it, I realized I've done this a couple times before and ultimately had the same outcome (loss of interest from target). Girls want a chase, and I finally understand that now.

I waited a day or two and asked her if she wanted to get lunch the following day, but she had something to do across the state. I made some minor compliment, got a generic response, then said "Ok I'm done complementing you for a while," to which she replied along the lines of "Yes you've met your quota. [blah blah blah]. haha but I do appreciate it though, thanks!"

So my question is... where am I at? She's traveling down to the Caribbean this weekend, and will be back Monday. Can I ask how her trip was when she returns? Do I wait for her to open me, and then ignore her when she does? I'm just not sure how I recover from this. I think I need to play hard to get, but I don't know how to do that without coming across as immature or without seeming like I'm trying to get her attention...

well considering I still don't know how to manage a kiss close , I usually go for a kiss on the cheek ( giving your kiss close routine would be appreciated ) I am probably not gonna have the best answer to give you but hey I'll try. Basically never try to complement her on her looks , she's an hb8 she got it so many times before .Redeem yourself .. reward her with compliment she earned ! How do you complimemt a women ? I still read this :Bait / Hook / Reel / Release (Mystery)
HOW TO HIT ON A WOMAN
You cannot indicate your interest (IOI) to a woman until she has first indicated her interest to you. The
ATTRACT STAGE has 3 phases: 1) OPEN - to get you into her group and in front of the girl 2) F2M
female to male attract - to get her attracted to you and 3) M2F male to female attract to show that you
have grown attracted to her for legitimized reasons.
Assuming you have completed phases 1 and 2, its time to move onto phase 3.
You may have already read about QUALIFYING principles. Many concepts about qualifying are
incorporated into phase 3 of MM. The idea is to make a woman demonstrate a higher value to you
(BAIT her into telling you INTERESTING THINGS about herself - not "What do you do?") so when
she replies (HOOKing her to give you information) you can IOI her (REEL her in) only to push her off
(RELEASE her from the pressure of being hit on). This occurs several times.
So the phase 3 sequence is: BAIT, HOOK, REEL, RELEASE.
Here is an example for you to use in-field right away.
YOU: What nationality are you?
HER: FRENCH.
YOU: Seriously? No WAY!!! The girl I had the biggest crush on in high school was French! I can't even
talk to you now.

You need to always let her feel she hasn't won and you're still not sold .
My advice to you is to wait for her and don't complemt her on anything for a small while then you could start rewarding her like I said before .

To be fair, i feel like that was a perfectly reasonable thing to say. You'd met up a few times and she wanted to make more plans, so you were in no way wrong to assume she was attracted to you. you'd already expressed your intentions by going for a couple of kiss closes anyway, so it should hardly be a surprise to her that you think she's pretty. So really, i'm not sure what this girls problem is. You did things right in my opinion. You werent deterred by her xclose rejections and you ploughed on. The thing is man, its a harsh reality that some girls are just teases. they like the attention and encourage it, but once they feel like they'll actually have to invest something they shut it down.

In terms of giving you some helpful advice, i'm gonna revert to what I say a lot about recovering, is just instil a bit of jealousy. Start showing a bit of interest in other girls when youre around her. even just chatting to another girl and laughing with her may trigger a sense of jealousy. You used to be paying her attention, and now this other chicks getting it.

Alternatively, if you have the balls to do it, just be straight with her. just say something along the lines of "lets cut the crap, we've been doing this dance for a while now, our we gonna take this further?"

youre a busy man, and dont want to waste time

I agree that wasn't bad to say. A better answer would have probably been to just ignore it and say "Monday or Saturday?".

Why are you complimenting her so much??? What has she done to EARN it??? Probably nothing, and she can smell neediness. You need to get used to making girls jump through hoops. Through your hoops. Anyway, let it be for now, then send her a text like "Still alive?" and go from there.

What did you do to escalate BEFORE the kiss close? Was there lots of SEXUAL kino? To me it sounds like you've put yourself in the friend zone by establishing TOO MUCH COMFORT and not enough attraction.

She sees you as fun to hang out with, a good time, and someone who will kiss her ass and give her validation, but not someone who is dominant, will take charge, and will test HER emotionally and sexually.