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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:05 pm 
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I know this girl for about 6 months from this school year. She has a crush on me and now I like her. I think she also has a bf of about 1 year, but not sure if its true or how seriout it is. She hasnt mentioned anything about him.

I started talking to her, asked her number but at first she didnt give it. After a while frozer her out, then she added me on facebook. I begin to game her again. This time we set off well. Got her number, she was really clumsy after that.
I try to speak with her in person and as little as possible in fb. In fb its usually 5-7 messages back and fourth and then she randomsly stops responding. I use fb just to keep myself in her mind between the times we dont speak in school.
An example of what I send her
"Im under the palm trees enjoing the sun and beach. Wish you (Name) were here, so you can make me some wind by waving a big palm leaf above me and serve me grapes."

"Me and you, we are like mr and ms Smith. We would never get along, we would shoot at each other, tear our house apart and end up kissing on the floor." --- To this she responded just "Sad sad :D"

About 3 weeks ago asked her out to play pool with something along those lines „Listen, I want to go play pool and I think you should come with me. It will be fun“ Bad timing tho, she had plans with her friends to go out of town for the weekend.

So I next week I offered the same thing. This time she asked me why it has to be pool, after she told me that shes really bad at it and turned me down. As were speaking I take out my phone and say „Guess if you´re not going out with me I have to delete your number then“ with playful tone and deleted it in front of her so she could see it. She didnt like it at all but didnt do anything to stop me aswell. Just said „Need some more room, eh?“. Soon after that I ended our convo and left.
A week has gone by and today I spoke to her again. I said „Listen, if you are bad at pool and thats why you dont want to play it with me, its okay, we dont have to do it. I just wanted to do something fun with you“ To wich she said „I think its not good idea“. I just said „Alright then, suit yourself“ and left. I also wanted to say this to her „I dont know much about you right now, just that you have cute little rabbit whos lazyboy and that you like to play with you phone in class like little girl, wich is kinda cute tho. Maybe you think that Im very attractive and I flirt alot with other girls and Im a playboy, therefore you cant trust me but if you knew me better then you would know thats not really true.“ But didnt.. Should I say it next time I see her?

Our talk today was a little akward, no touching. I was little nervous and guess that made her feel same way. That wasnt what I had planed in my mind at all and it makes me mad, messed up today... I probably have some sort of onetis about her and that fucks everything up.

Im so in between of the two...Should I try and keep on going or give her cold shoulder till the rest of the time.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:56 pm 
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bro i think you're being an asshole to her. i mean i get the push pull thing that you're trying but its too much push in my opinion.

you know how attraction has 2 faces: one is you make her attracted to you, and the ther is you show her why you are attracted to her. this last one you are lacking from what i'm reading.

you should be giving more love. for example:

"Im under the palm trees enjoing the sun and beach. Wish you (Name) were here, so you can make me some wind by waving a big palm leaf above me and serve me grapes."

should have been

"Im under the palm trees enjoing the sun and beach. Wish you (Name) were here, you would love this."

note how its not "Wish you (Name) were here, i want you in my arms girl" or some cheese thing, by saying "you would love this" you indicate that you pay attention to what she loves and you know stuff about her, and you wish her well, but not too much interest.

make her feel good, appreciated, loved, safe. pushing should be only used after the pull. and pushing is not to lower her self esteem, its so she feels compelled to go after you, and to calibrate.

i think she might stop responding to you on facebook because you say something really asshole-ish and she simply doesn't feel compelled to answer that.

in regards to the pool incident:
a great example is that as david wygant says, when you invite a girl out, you should first know something special about her or something that she loves in order to ask her to go out and do something related to that, i think this is why you have the "does it have to be pool?" problem.

here's the link. great stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1jOawUIbMk

im going to be blunt here, i think the "im deleting your number because you're not going out with me" is the single worst thing you could have done. now you're just an asshole in her view, i know this because i've done the exact thing and blew the set away. the worst part is that women talk, and you as you say, made her angry, so she must have tolled every girl she's close with what you did.

i think you should forget her and learn from your mistakes for next time, because if you keep trying you are just going to stick yourself deeper in this mess and you may come off as creepy for keep trying.

the rule of thumb is from "simple pickup" (love those guys check them out): is if she's smiling, keep going. (if she's not STOP!)

lastly, to eject from any girl situation, once you've screwed up just don't initiate conversations unless you're obliged to, dont hit on her, be nice to her but dont pay much attention to her and YOU FRIENDZONE HER. if you can, cut her off from your life, if you have to keep seeing her just treat her well and do not hit on her unless one of her friends comes up to you and is like "do you still like (name)?" then you still have a chance, otherwise thats the end of it.

sorry to be so blunt about all this, but in my opinion its the best and only way. we are men, we can take it.

hope it helps, of course its nothing personal, im trying to help, and its just my opinion anyways.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:57 am 
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Thnaks for your opinion Owen, I understand.

At some points I have been kinda asshole-ish to her, like this number deleting thing. Tho it was meant only to tease her, I felt bad after that and tought that I should not have done it. But what is done is done... cant be undone.
Over facebook tho I have never been like that to her. I always try to make the time we can spend together/talk as it would be win-win for both of us, sometimes yeah, I push too much I guess and come off as harsh/ass.

About the pool thing: I invited her to play pool with me because, she posted a pic of her with girl friends playing pool for valentines day, at that point it seemed good idea for a hangout since shes familiar with it. For me its not so important.

About forgetting her... We see eachother every week. At classes when lecturer asks about subjects that we should have previously completed that I know she hasnt done and me neither. Or anything.... She looks at me from other side of class while sitting with her friends and has huge smile on her face - makes me smile every time. Also we are flying to abroad for summer across the world to same location, whole 4 months.

From now on I just have to treat her really well and not do anything stupid. Back off with asking her out for a while and make her to enjoy our time together.


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