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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:36 pm 
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I've been out with this HB9 twice. Both times ended up making out and that's about it. She is a bit bitchy, really intelligent and kind of up tight. Have been going back and forth with texts which have been good at times but ran into a problem last nite. Need some help with an exchange on where to go from here. Give it a few days or send something to reset? I'm very close to that edge where if I say the wrong thing she may say "you know what we are nothing alike" because we are somewhat opposites.

her 9:56
Oh please you're the one who never drops the smart and serious jokes
me 10:09
I don't know if I could hang with someone so smart...but you do have such a nice booty!
me 10:09
I'm really torn
her 10:54
Every time you make that same type of joke, it really only reminds me of a) when people used to make fun of me for the same stupid shit in 3rd grade, and b) apparently smart isn't your thing.
me 11:11
I like your honest response. It's great because most girls aren't that straight forward.
her 11:13
Yeah well I get really honest when I'm annoyed
me 11:45
You have a really interesting mix of feistiness, sweetness and an almost businesslike honesty. Quite something


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:47 pm 
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I know this well. Maybe you did something at first to annoy/offend her, but you obviously tried to diffuse it and play it cool afterwards. Any normal/reasonable person would realize you are trying to be cool about it and let it go. Yet the girl just keeps on being a bitch about it and is laying into you for no good reason.

Unfortunately, this is a BIG IOD. What women do when they aren't interested in you any longer is create false conflicts. Then they can use that false conflict as an excuse to tell you that you and her are nothing alike. Bingo bango, you guys argue to much because of something you said, it's all your fault, and now she goes her separate way and fucks some other dude.

HB9s and 10s are like beautiful roses. But they wilt fast and don't last long, so enjoy them while you can. I've tried being super nice after they start that shit, but it doesn't work. Tried to level with them and be rational--no luck there. I've even tried to argue and amog them, but that makes it end even faster.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:50 pm 
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Yeah this girl can be a bitch and brutally honest but I was hoping that I could say something to keep her on the ledge just a little longer. Don't want to just give up the game.


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Yeah this girl can be a bitch and brutally honest but I was hoping that I could say something to keep her on the ledge just a little longer. Don't want to just give up the game.
Oh, I know, trust me. If anyone else has some tricks/advice I'd love to hear it as well.

Sad to say, but you probably can't talk yourself back into their good graces at that point. Maybe if you game them better beforehand it won't end up like this, I dunno. I think the only option is to game other women and put this one on ice in the meantime.

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Any ideas. Really would like to know this because at times I've gone too far with trying to be funny and shot myself in the foot. Any recovery techniques for this or what's above?


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Hey dude Im going to explain something Ive picked up through similar engagements

When you meet a girl theres four stages you need to go through to get her in bed, the rule of thumb is this takes about 6 hours under normal conditions. although with enough skill an experience you can break that to an hour lol trust me :)

Okay well the four stages are

Interest - Comfort - Attraction - Seductions

If your stay to long in the first 2 you'll get friendzoned. (which isnt the end of the world) But as shes kissed you an met you twice I think youve atleast gone to attraction but you havent progressed much further in that because the moment you noticed she was starting to be attracted to you, you jumped into a seller (entertain/ comedian/clown' mind frame, constantly trying to put yourself out there for her amusing an just not being self amused, relying on her to give you validation she wants to buy you.. Which is really beta behaviour.

The mind frame you need to come from is the buyer, your self amused you dont need her, youd have her you have the 'money/entitlement' that she's yours. You have an abundance of HB9/10's so you dont need her approval.

Work through attraction again, just naturally bring emotions out of her, whether its good or bad just make her experience you, image her as like a a box, an while your there your filling the box with experiences your giving her. if it fills of stuff shes not interested in shes just going to walk away, so empty the box and start again from attraction.

Next time you go out, mediate, chill and relax, your there for your own amusement, your not relatint on her approve, if she starts getting bitchy, it could be a congruency test (shit test) or it could be the bitch shield.

Id probably of gone along the lines of this with your convo

her
Oh please you're the one who never drops the smart and serious jokes
me
I don't know if I could hang with someone so smart...but you do have such a nice booty!
me
I'm really torn
her
Every time you make that same type of joke, it really only reminds me of a) when people used to make fun of me for the same stupid shit in 3rd grade, and b) apparently smart isn't your thing.
me
I like your honest response. It's great because most girls aren't that straight forward.
her
Yeah well I get really honest when I'm annoyed
me yeh your get rather annoying when your annoyed too, come on stand up an say come on *gesture as if your leaving* be an alpha just start walking if she doesn't comply, the change the setting jsut walk her to a different part of the bar or club, then start the whole engagement again, its an NLP trick called pattern interups, if your going around in a circle an cant get out of the fix the literally with volition just change everything, make her question where are you going, are you leaving her shell start seeking validation that your not going to leave her.

Hope that makes sense if you need anymore framing ideas just PM me ill be happy to help

Peace
Dan-Thomas


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