We told each other we love each other yesterday, and are talking about the future. I feel like im doing a good job making her feel COMFORTABLE

Wow, now I'm just interested in how this ends.

Im very confident in my game. Trust me. This may take long, but it will end good.

Be careful. Super christian girls get weird when you take their V-card.

Hey, I was actually going to post in here again. I am close to giving up.

After slowly trying to do kino with her, and move things forward, i get denied all the time. She hits my hand away and denies any attempt. When I asked her if we cant even go to second base before marrage she says when she feels right, it could be around 8 months wait.

I asked her if i ever have turned her on and she said yes i have but she turns it off immediately.

I see this as a challenge, help me crack this

Honestly, now any pua trick you pull will be incongurent and therefore most likely fail. Your relationship is built on her principle rather than yours or some compromise between you two. She is with other words the dominant character.

Without master fucking elite gaming (which I don't think either you or me have), you won't succeed.

You can of course marry her. Do you however want to spend the rest of your life with this woman and implement her christian values on your children? Probably not since your goal is just to have sex with her. If she truly was the love of your life then you wouldn't have a problem with waiting 8 months. You only see this as a challenge (your words here).

So when wanting to have sex, you have to remember that there are other fucking fishes in the sea.

Even if you become a master gamer it probably won't work since your relationships roles have been established already.

I'm sorry to be crude but I find it somewhat wrong that you are lying to a girl and saying that you want to marry her when you only see her as a challenge.

Tell her your a man and want sex to be a part of your life and then leave. She can run after you if she wants. What do you care when she is only a failed challenge?

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Rewire her beliefs man! Start slowly and rewire the belief that sex is shameful -- because obviously she thinks it is. I'd suggest studying NLP texts, because they will help you greatly to take her from a negative frame into a positive one. Take it slow, though. She will come around!

NLP doesn't work man. Going to have to side with Swedishguy here.

Okay guys surely there is some sort of game/plan i can follow to get her closer to wanting it...

What are NLP texts?

Without saying "nothing will work"... if you had no choice but to game this girl or stick to a plan, what would that plan be

Get her drunk and sleeping over, and then aggressively persist through all of her resistance until she either finally fucks you, or leaves. Aim for about 6 hours of not giving up. Use everything you can, nibble her earlobes, elbows, kiss her neck, smell her hair, caveman her onto the bed etc. Eventually you'll find something that turns her on enough, or she will leave.

NLP is some bullshit about embedding hypnotic commands in spoken word and text. It's been scientifically discredited.

if i was you and someone held a gun against my head and told me that he would kill me if i don't f-close this girl, what i would do is sticking around, engaging her and than marrying her for guaranteed success.

i've been following your thread and i'm really interested in how its gonna end. first i thought it would be a lot easier but now i'm beginning to think that even tho you have some skills, she really is super christian.

imagine how secret agencies crack a religious fanatic extremist terrorist, a true believer of any religion. the use phisical violence, psychological pressure to the extreme, all kind of drugs possible and still fail quite often. so i think the whole outcome really depends on her too, it's not just you trying out different techniques and methods.

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Wouldn't you just rape her if there was a gun to your head? Not to bash your excellent points but I want to change Whysoskinnys mindset. A secret government agencies hold religious fanatics against their will and do crazy illegal shit on them (torture etc.). I'm not saying this wouldn't work, I'm just trying to point out that it is bad logistics.. Getting thrown in prision etc...

To get impossible girls to sleep with guys you should always turn to PUA:s. What does pua's do? They dominate and manipulate girls emotions and believes. However, whysoskinny is being dominated and manipulated by his girl. He has been ever since they started dating. He is with other words unable to get what he wants. The girl might be happy with this relationship but he is not.

Whysoskinny you are letting yourself stay in a relationship you are unable to be happy in or change to the way you want it to be. SCREW your "she must be my next lay"-mindset. You can fucking ditch her and up your game and then see if you are able to game her in the future. OR you can fucking dumb her and see her fuck some other guy with more game and then take her back since she has shed her believes.

So basically, break rapport. That's what Sinn, I think, said creates sexual attraction. That is what you want afterall

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Your points and good, and I see that my attempts are getting repetitive and obviously not working.

This update is what has happened recently.

Last night was pub night, i arrived late (planned), didnt text her before coming and ignored texts, she was drunk before I got there. The moment she saw me she jumped on me. She was hooking up with me all the time, touching my body, her friends told me they have never seen her act towards a guy like this. I Remember the last time she was "drunk" and came back to my room we had intense dry humping session

This time I would move things forward. We left, got her in my room... This is something I literally almost punch the wall when I talk about. She just lied there, i would nudge her, and im like babe, you okay? I climb on top of her and kiss her and say well let me take your mind of it, she says "no get off my stomach i feel sick", I ignore, then she rolls over. I play the fine, i dont give a fuck turn the other way and ignore completely. She passes out and is like a zombie, at this point. I wake her up and say, what is this? Im never alone with you as it is and now you are back at mine passed the fuck out... 20 minutes ago you were dancing all over me, her reply "i feel sick I might throw up"... okay. Her "i might as well go"... me, okay... i lay down, she bends over to give me a kiss i dont move, i say "watch out, bend any further and you might throw up"... she walks out the door, (i feel like a dick thinking shit maybe i should of just laid with her next to her.. PS... first time i wrote the word "laid" without meaning sex, fuck") i open my door and walk after her saying "wow. you would leave like that, just leave", she says "i was going to sit out here and wait, i feel bad", we come back in my room, it ends up ME apologizing, ME confessing, ME saying I wont make a move on her again. I dont know what the FUCK TO DO ANYMORE. I mean FUCK. Today i went over to hers and I tried my 100% to resist her, i couldnt help slide the hand down the bottom and give it a grab, then said, shit sorry...

Honestly, what do you guys think? and no, i dont want to hear, "DUMP THE BITCH"... Im reckoning a huge freeze out? Keep in mind she is my gf and an amazing girl

anyone.

I already given advice that should work to fuck your girl friend. Just reread that. It won't work if you are always apologizing though. You haven't followed anyone's advice since you are still saying your sorry. You got the power! Now use it!

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