Hello all!

I'm 26 and living in a small town in Belgium. I'm completely unsuccesfull with woman.

The facts: only kissed three girls in my life. At the age of 22 i got sick of being a virgin, so I visited a prostitute. Never ever had a girlfriend before.

I learned about PUA about one year ago. I read a couple of books. Learned to change my posture and some routines. Then I went out in the field.

I'm able to aproach. Keep the conversation going. Make a nice impression, but I fail everytime with closure.

I have a lot of interests. I travel a lot, have a nice job,...

Last night I meet this girl at a local bar. We had the exact same interests. I ran some routines. She lituary overloaded me with complements. About how I had an incredable goodlooking smile. How fun it was for her to meet someone who had the same interests. How fun it was talking to me. She complimented my hair, told me how jealous she was about al the travelling I had done, and so on and so on...

Now there was this other guy. I know him by chance. So he came to say hi. He is the kind of guy who doesn't bother for doing his hair. Is kind a ugly. Wears the same clothes everyday. Doesn't have a job. He has the reputation of being a lyer... So he talks to her like 10 minutes: kiss closed her and probarly even fucked closed her later on.

This is not the first time this kind of stuff happened to me. Even after one whole year of practising I realised that every single man, even all the AFC's are still better then me.
Should I give up? Because this is even worse then my AFC day's. Its killing me.
Are there any of you out there who took longer then a year and were able to pull it together after all? Any advise?

I know how you feel, im 19, lost my V to a complete slut of a barmaid, then got into a relationship with a girl younger than me and it was horrible, she was so insecure and stuff. i recently broke up with her after a year.

Before i was in the relationship i used to hang about with two people, one of which never tried with girls, the other was a complete man-slut he would sleep with anything that moved and would move in on anyone i had interest with, and either k-closed them or more, or if he couldn't get with them, he would turn them away from me. this was so frustrating for me, he was supposed to be my friend but was pissing all over me, so i detached myself from him. Iv'e recently started gaming with another friend of mine, we started doing it just for fun, but then realised that it does actually work, but only if you are persistent. Everyone gets turned down, failing is a part of life, but its not the failure you should dwell on, its what you can learn from failing, look at the situation and see where you went wrong, maybe you didn't show enough interest, maybe you didn't move into her fast enough.

Whatever you do, dont give up, it will come eventually, some people it takes longer to get than others, but believe me, everyone has the potential.

greetings from the netherlands! I feel ya, I also went for hookers to be able to end my virginity when I was 18. And the only girl I really had sex with is my ex-girlfriend.

I started to see it as a game not long ago, and there do comes with frustration. ESPECIALLY, when you know that you are really trying.

But we gotta keep improving. Otherwise? 1st, u ain't gonna killed urself and get respawn as a natural PUA. 2nd, if you give up now, u will never gonna feel satisfied in life at some point, cuz u've seen the possibilities, and u finally start to understand how things actually work.

I have also frustration so many times, and I'm still trying, I've come this far.

If you think all others are even better than u do, well, look around in a bar or club, how many dudes are still holding the same beer in a corner for the whole fucking night and hope miracles to happen?

What you lack, is just practice.
Success

Chin up mate, seriously. One day it will click and all fall into place.

Sure, you're right at that time I'm doing better then them. But at some point this guy with a beer gets lucky. By example: he meets someone at work or via friends. It will not happen much. I believe like only once in every six months maximum.
He ends up with her having a relationship and having sex. Probarly gets dumped later on, because he's a beta male.
When you look at me: I never had a girlfriend, never had sex for free. That's what I meant with "everyone is doing better then me". Its more a longterm thing.

Personal I don't believe my problem is lack of practice. I'm over 1000 aproaches now (1012 to be precise). In 93 cases I had a numberclose and 1 kiss close. So I'm missing the weapons to spark attraction and creating comfort. Woman are untill this day not comfortable around me.
The most funny thing about these statistics is: 5 times my best friend an AFC kiss closed one of my targets friends. So despite me doing all the hard work, my AFC friend gets more out it. Most of the time he is just talking how boring his job is I'm more talking about childhood, vacation, cold reading with girls. I feel like such a fool

It may be the you are not physically escalating enough. As the man, you have to push the action, you have to make the move, and you have to be entirely comfortable about doing it. It sounds like you are good at building rapport, but you have to do more than just make her comfortable, you have to build the sexual tension. For instance, when I picture your interaction with the girl that kept complimenting you, based on how you've portrayed yourself so far, I see you smiling, reacting with facial expressions, saying thank you, and maybe returning compliments. Instead, as she's talking, look her in the eyes with that confident, manly, "i'm going to kiss you" look. Nod your head as if you don't care what she's saying, as you slowly lean in, never breaking eye contact. As you get closer and closer to her mouth, the tension will build. Her blood will start pumping. She may become flush. Then, BAM! You kiss her. You pull away from the kiss first, and look her in the eye. From there it's on. If she was displaying interest in you, then why wouldn't she want to kiss you? You just have to be the man and pull the trigger. This may be the area that you need to work on.