i have been reading lots and lots of great information on here, i finally gave in and realized i needed some help here, i can occasionally "get lucky" from time to time, i have been told by many girls that i have fatally "friend zoned" as well as from friends girlfriends and things like that that i am a sexy man, hot, things like that that im almost 100 percent sure were gunuine and real, not just them saying that. i have been looking through this forum particularly thoroughly and have found many of the things i am doing wrong to get a lay or relationship out of. i was the one to fail every "shit test' a girl could throw at me, even tho some that were physically attracted to me let it slide, even numerous times!, i dont normally have to get past any "bitch shields" i have had a few thrown at me, dont get me wrong, but i un knowingly triggered the "bitch shield" almost every time i ever had it thrown at me. i would just shrug it off as "shes a bitch, there are many others" these terms"shit test and bitch shield" are very new to me. i couldnt figure out what was going wrong with it, i thought i was ugly to tell the truth, after all, ill let a pretty girl walk all over me to get a kiss or better. i didnt know i was doing anything wrong, i dont have a whole lot of approach anxiety, what got me here to this forum is that i was totally turned down by a hb10 she was attracted to me at first, then i failed her shit tests and was out the doormm thats all i did wrong, and let me tell ya, it hurt pretty bad, untill i started reading this forum i would of still been hurting loosing sleep over this girl, till another came along. i havent been able to go out with my friends in a few weeks cuz of work and all that, but at least i will know to not walk up to a girl with the "can i buy u a drink" opener.. which always triggers the bitch shield. which i didnt know existed! i just thought they were genuine bitches, i now know they arent"most of em anyways" i also came to realize that if i had aproach anxiety for some reason that night, iwould have a few"too many" drinks to calm the nerves, and a drunk ass trying to buy a girl a drink is the bigest bitch shield thrower upper ever! i now know to just have one or two drinks to calm the nerves then go for it, i think i am much more prepared for next time i go out, since reading this forum it has boosted my self esteem also, i love the way everyone on here encourages others to "try it again" "dont give up" this should be a great experience for me, i have even noticed when just hanging out with my friends i have a more playful attitude confidence. a girl one time told me that i was sexy but did not have enough confidence and walked away after a few words! yikes. i was getting this all the time, girls telling me i dont have enough game. even giving me pointers which didnt make any sence to me. i would watch my pua-good with girls' friends "nuke a bitch shield with a subtal but fatal neg" and i noticed the end result was good, but idid not understand why and how it worked or how to replicate it. i am paying close attention now to my friends "natural game" and see it then i am able to analyze whats going on, why how it works, what works better than others, and how to use-adapt it to work for me! this is going to be fun and life changing for me!! thank you afc forum thank you. and i noticed that yall are from all around the world, not just usa, i live in texas, wear a cowboy hat, and drive a big truck. i couldnt figure out why dusche bag looking guys, with no ride, no job, and go to mama and daddy till they are 30... get the girls instead of me. its all about understanding the "game" not just remembering this routine or that one. girls are like rubiks cubes, they are all the same, they can all be solved, they can be bitches at times, but sometimes fall together easily. thank you, i never knew any of this before i would always ut myself down in one way or another. sorry to ramble on, if anyone skips to this part, take the time to read it again.

Welcome. I'm new, too, so let's figure this stuff out together. A lot of what you said at the beginning is me, too. Been told I'm attractive, pull in the initial attention of some 10's, but fail the shit tests and don't respond to the good stuff the right way to capitalize.

So much of it is just your mindset. Start small and go at it like an experiment. Go all in, see what works and what doesn't, and get better the next time. Build on your successes.

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i have been thinking of a way to practice getting out of sticky situations. like say trigger a bitch switch on purpose to see what kind of negs it takes to turn it off.

then say something stupid, to turn it back on, and try to charm your way back to turning it off,
then say something stupid, see how many times you can flip the switch on and off, make a game out of it!!
i would say 3 times would be a great initial goal! since the first is mostly luck, the second will be more sticky, and the 3rd.... ur da man!! man
after all.... before reading this forum we probly wouldnt of even walked up and said hi to her in the first place right?? so theres nothing lost... right? and how rewarding if you hit the goal! theres the confidence factor! instead of getting turned down by the first girl and it ruining your game for the whole night! oh and dont drink too much!! save your money and get girls at the same time! getting hammered will only hurt the game!

im sure the girls get a great rise out of squashing guys egos every time they go out, its all a GAME!!! i would flip the bitch switch by walking up and saying

me: wheres your drink woman!
victim: im not drinking tonight-i have to drive tonight-
me: neg-- i have been thinking of one like hey i like they way you do your eyebrows, especially the right one-- hopefully it will throw her off and start gaming then go do something stupid like
me:you really need to drink girl! have some fun!
victim: i told you i wasnt drinking tonight! besides i have a boyfriend! (flip the bitch switch)
me: throw another neg or start boyfriend bashing or something, but just make it a game, idk. i am going to try it, i hope to go out tomorrow as its friday night!! and i have plans and money to go out with!! the stars are aligning! (: