What's up everyone; brief introduction: I'm 17, and done most of the things you can do with a girl, but not in the way I would've liked nor with the girls I would've liked. I am an ok-looking fellow who is athletic and doesn't have trouble socializing and being interesting, but trouble actually taking things further with girls... Then I came upon The Game by Neil Strauss and my mind was opened. That book led me to a website, which led me here. I have since began to change the way I talk to girls, using new openers, negs, DHV's, etc. and its working! My goal? To learn and absorb enough knowledge so that when I'm old enough to hit up clubs, I can rock those places so hard I will have girls drooling at my feet (figuratively, of course). Looking forward to spending a lot of time on this forum .