hmm, came across this forum by chance. realized that I've been suffering from oneitis from a long time. I feel so dumb. I've had the chance to get laid so many times in the past year(s), when girls come onto me for no reason, and I just do nothing.
Once this girl at some music booth even told me "Hey, you're pretty cute" All I said was thx. My friend has been pestering me about incident that ever since.
After hearing about "The Game" and browsing this forum, I've finally come to the conclusion that it's silly girls or women who force us to play this game, so what can we do but play the game?

Anyway, I'm a complete fuckin loser. I guess that I'm attractive because many young chicks, and older women come on to me. Funny thing is sometimes the chicks are like 4 years younger, so I'm like fuck that. And they can sometimes also be older than 21. I'm 19 btw, about to be 20.

My problem with women is that I'm bad at introducing myself. I have a split personality, I'm not sure if it's real or not. But to people who don't know me I'm quiet and chill. To people who know me I'm the craziest son of a bitch who likes to act stupid and laugh like a maniac for no reason at all. If you didn't know me and saw that side of me you'd probably think I was a psycho. I don't know if this is a disadvantage, or how I could use this to my advantage..

Another problem is in conversations. I can't think of anything to say. Don't know if I'm just boring or what, but I'm not into the things that most other people are into. I'm not a sports guy. Never had the time to get into it. If you asked me the name every states football team and their mascot, I wouldn't be able to name even half of them.
I'm hardcore into music (also into producing and I play 6 instruments), and film (don't watch much comedy), and sometimes weed. I drink, but I don't smoke cigarettes. From what I've experienced, some girls like guys who smoke, others don't.

When there's a hot chick around, unless she starts talkin to me, most of the time I just have a chill attitude and pretend to not give a shit Also, I'm a bad conversationalist because half the time I can't find anything to talk about. The women I have no problem with are the ones who are very talkative, cus I don't have to do any work. But the quiet ones and the in-between I struggle with getting them to open up.

The goal I want to accomplish now is just to be able to pick up a random chick at the mall or college campus or wherever, and have a conversation with her. I'm tired of constantly brushing past fine.. fine ass chicks and not being able to stop them in their tracks. What should I say? What should I do?
I've never been able to figure out a way to just walk up to a random hot chick and start talking to her and not make her feel like I'm a weirdo. It's even harder if it's one chick surrounded by a couple guys. Or a group of chicks.

until now? But I need more routines.
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Anyway, I thought of a good pick up line..haven't tried it yet, but thought I'd share it to get some feedback:

So. You spot a hot chick who doesn't know you at all and you want to approach her. Go up to her and say:

-Hey! I need your help
HB: Sure/Depends on what it is (usually the latter would be the response)
-You see that hot chick over there *points* (for this to work you need to spot a 2nd objective, can be an average chick or a HB10, but it shows your standards.
HB: Yes
-Can you think of a good pick up line for me so I can use it on her?
HB: Tells you her idea/pick-up line *
-Ok, wish me luck! *at this point, walk over to the other girl*

(It doesn't really matter if you get rejected or not, but there's no reason to be afraid especially if you pretend in your mind that you're approaching this girl, for someone else's entertainment. Either way, it's win or lose, and if you succeed, then you are killing two birds with one stone)

then, when you come back, she's gonna ask you how it went. Then just tell her the truth, and she'll laugh. After that, I guess she'll want to ask your name..
and then you could chop it up with her. but I don't really know. That part I'm afraid i'll screw up cus I cant think of what to say next. I want to be able to have a real conversation with a girl, no bullshit, no lame stories, etc.

Any help greatly appreciated. Also lookin to hook up with another PUA in my area.

"(It doesn't really matter if you get rejected or not, but there's no reason to be afraid especially if you pretend in your mind that you're approaching this girl, for someone else's entertainment. Either way, it's win or lose, and if you succeed, then you are killing two birds with one stone)"

Meant to say, either way, you win.

"-Can you think of a good pick up line for me so I can use it on her? "

Instead of that, say:
-"Can you help me think of a pick up line so I can use it on her? I don't care if it's a really lame one, I just want to see what happens"
to show that you're not really serious about this.
If she counters with:
Why don't you think of one yourself?
Then counter with:
-Because I'm doing an experiment to see if girls can come up with better pick up lines than guys.
If needed follow with:
"If you won't help me, then I'll go ask that girl what's a good pick up line to use on you, be right back"
(lol, don't know if this will work. I'm just imagining things and rambling, need some help here, cus I'm gonna go try this)

Also, if the pick-up line she gives you doesn't work, you should gesture and yell back to her, "It's not working!"..

Also.. might be a good idea to tell the girl to wait for you, (she might be interested to find out what happens anyway.) But it might be a good idea to use this on a girl who is stationary. Cus if she walks away.. then you lose your main target. lol

And fuck.. that means I still need a plan for fine chicks who I see walking towards me, about to pass me.

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thats a good line, but you gotta be able to transition afterwards which seems to be ur problem, coming up with other things to talk about.....if i were u i wuld try to come up with some type of neg aftewards, sumthin like i hope ur not as bad with pick up lines as you are with blah blah blah

and were in nor cal u from

nice man. well it sounds like you do have a lot goin for you. just a little bit of approach anxiety which is perfectly natural. its a part of evolution, getting rejected used to mean you couldn't have kids and pass down your genes, so getting rejected could mean an end to your family. now that its more of a game rejection is just a part of it, but its still pretty damn scary.

but work that creative stuff, you said you're big into music right? and you produce your own stuff? chicks loveeee musicians. you could work that in easy, "so what kind of music do you listen to?" *response* "oh yeah? i do a little music producing and have been workin on something similar blah blah blah". major DHV.

and as far as those lines go i think its an A+ idea. playing little games like that with girls drives them crazy. they just want to be a part of something. they want the focus to be on them without knowing its on them. its like a guilty pleasure. so even when you're off hitting on this other girl, the main girl is still going to feel like the attention's on her cuz its her line. and a quick look back at girl #1? that seals the deal right there. i like it man. keep it up.

on a side note, i just moved to LA from chicago this year where i was introduced to hyphy. great stuff.

where in the bay are u from??? I'm from San jose. Hits up if ur in the area aim:doinitlivebaby

good line there, could see it working. may try it myself if you dont mind

Good line...i think ill have a go at it tonight

So I take it after this you would walk over to the other girl and say the same thing? Hmm, this might be something I could see myself trying out.

Seems like all you need is some research, take some notes and u'd be fine