Not only do i want to introduce myself, i wanted to get some input.

Names, Elgin I live in Toronto and I am not completely new to this world, but very intrigued to what others do feel and have accomplished. I started off my life as a fat kid who had charisma but never could move past the "Freind Zone" After years suffering through this I lost weight and begin my new path. I now am 23 fit and have a job that has helped me be more outgoing and charasmatic!

As I mentioned iIam not completely new to this. Now for years I have prided myself on being able to take the girl home and that had become very easy. After getting used to the same old routine i slowed down a little bit and wanted to try new things, new waqys in the art of seduction. I have that voice in my head hat alays tells me to push harder and try the impossible(I'm sure alot of people reading this have that voice.)

Well I am often the guy who friends call to see what to do next with the new lady friend, or the guy who's asked at a packed club to break the ice with a group of people. This is where my problems lay now, after just opening and giving advice I feel I move to fast when I try to pick up myself. A phone number close, or a kiss close is very easy but to further the venture I feel I am slacking now.
I have become ever so intrigued now after a friend witnessed me doing the usual at a club and asked me if I had ever read The Game. I answered with a no and he was shocked informing me i use many of the objectives detailed in the book.

I hope that I can find some answers and overcome this little slump I am in. I can close still, but not always with the 10 I begain my conquest on.

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The man who suceeds never feared failing