Hi hi hi,

As you can tell from the subject line i'm from wonderful London and completely new to pick up. I'm 24 next month and recently single, very single. I have been studying game for about a month now, and to describe me as AFC would be a complete understatement.

Most of my previous relationships have stemmed from friendships, tbh i've never actually made an approach and so it's all a bit daunting for me, but hey that's how most of us were once right? I've left a long standing relationship with someone who I now know is a bitch but it really affected my self-esteem so i'm hoping getting into the art of pick-up will help me in that respect but also all aspects of life, job interviews, confidence with new groups of people and the like.

My other reason, one i'm sure a few of you can relate to, is that my ex moved on pretty quickly (she was flirting with the guy while we were together) and so I dont wanna be sat around, single, thinking about all the shite she is probably up to. I want to lead my own life and be successful with women. I'm comfortable around women and have a lot of female friends, but that's all, friends, once i'm in the friends zone with a girl they love me, I can make them laugh, hold a conversation and have no qualms chatting all manner of BS. My issue comes with people i'm new to or not comfortable with, I really want to tackle this and get somewhere.

Anyway if you've read this far, thanks! Hope to get to know some of you well over the coming days/weeks/months and enjoy this forum!

I can kinda relate to your story. It's the biggest thing most guys struggle with including myself eventhough I've been getting alot more comfortable with talking to random girls. Taking that your good with befriended girls I'm asuming your a social guy with the lack of courage, like me.
On the other hand it's a good thing most guys have a hard time talking to girls they like, it makes the guys who can look good. And since you're here to improve yourself you'll soon be getting that advantage. I hope you realize that and it'll give you a boost when you want to talk to a girl you like.

What worked for me was: 'fuck it', try to care less and just go say hi to some random person. Like: 'hi, how are you doing?' then just cut off and go back to whatever you were doing. You actually talked to someone without any chance of failing or being blown off. While you continue to talk to random people (and not only cute girls), even if you only say hi and ask how they are, you keep building up more confidence. It's helped me to open up to people alot more and making me a more interesting person.

I wish you the best of luck and maybe I'll see you pop up sometime when I ask for help

Hey Trotyl thanks for the response, glad we're both kindred spirits in that sense and have the same kind of vibe going on. Yeah i'm a sociable person with people I know and fine chatting to random guys, which will come in good later when dealing with AMOG's. But yeah the initial courage is a HUGE barrier for me and one I will struggle to over come.

But as you say a "fuck it" attitude is exactly what is needed with this and persistence in bucket loads. I'm gonna try work on what you said and hope to see more of you around the forums too! Definitely up for helping others so i'll try and do my best despite my complete AFCness haha.

greetings fellow london i can totally relate to this, remember something its a learning curve its great to study material however if you cant do it then what the point! its gonna be hard its a challenge but whats the point of life if you aint gonna live it!

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Yo gnutter,

my personal story is very similar to yours (and i guess it s not hard to find much more AFCs fitting this pattern), not to mention that i m currently living in London. I m relatively new to community, and all my friends are kinda married or in a relationships, what on one hand is putting kind of a pressure on me (something like if they have it, why not me?) and on the other hand its hard to get them to come out (no the best buddies for sarging).

So maybe, we could put something together couple of us AFCs to go out in London time to time to practice bit of sarging and share the outcomings.

Let me know, I m 24 turning 25, originaly from slovakia (if you seen Hostel, you know all about it).

I also suggest reading the bodylanguage book by Allan and Barbara Pease. Don't know the english name since I have the dutch version but you can just google the authors. It teaches how to read bodylanguage and change yours so you look/become more confident. I really enjoyed reading it.
Also there's this audio track by Gambler which is supposed to increase your confidence. I haven't listened to it myself, yet, but I think it'll be helpfull. It's in some ad around here and since he's got so many good videos I'm sure it'll be good. It's called "Approaching Confidence".

Nice to see some guys from London that wanna sarge with you. O and btw Hottowel, 'Share the outcomes' ? I hope you mean sharing fieldreports and not the girls, lol.

English name of that book is The Definitive book of body language, now the reason i know that is not anyhow connected to my literature knowledge (which is quite rusty one may say), but simply because i bought this book couple hours ago, what a coincidence.

Talking about books, can anyone recommend me book on NLP and general hypnosis?

And just to assure you Trotyl, i had no intention in sharing girls.lol

nlp and hypnosis books??? try nlp workbook by joseph o connor, and get the life you want and make your life great by richard bandler!

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Try finding some Ross jeffies literature about NLP perhaps. I also got a book called 'masterflirt' but it's a dutch author so I'm pretty sure there isn't a english version but you can always try. It explains how to properly flirt/seduce and also throws in hypnosis and special routines to make women fall for you.

theres no english edition. booo

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This introduction has taken a life of it's own, good stuff! Great to hear from a few of you being in a similar situation, thought it would be pretty common.

Crazyone2k you're totally right and life is for living, i'm definitely going to go out and give it my best shot, a set back is only another opportunity to find a way to improve yourself.

Hottowel, definitely up for a group of us Londoners getting together and sorting something out in the not too distant future, in the mean time i'm going to try and perfect my game till it's almost flawless. I want to be able to go out with little or no AA and am starting as soon as possible. I would say the main thing I want is daygame tbh, I'm not that much of a clubbing kind of guy, more into the pub scene and a chilled night, but if I could get good in clubs all the more fun!

Will hopefully see more of you all on the forums and look forward to helping you guys out and vice-versa let the AFC-PUA journey begin men!

I am definitely going to look at NLP as well, but very vague on the subject at the moment. How do you find it?

gnutter, you can find plenty of NLP material in any Waterstones book store but i highly recommend the one in Piccadilly.

And about the day game, well thats what i m trying to do right now, if was to choose between pub or club well pub is a winner. No loud music

Guys... what's good?



The title "Hi from London" caught my eye in the last post column.

I read over your original post and through the rest of the comments in this thread, and I can understand and appreciate where you guys are coming from.

I'm based in London myself, I been doing this a little while now, kept chopping and changing what I was working on and practising until things started to click.


I've played around with a lot of theory, practised it all, see what works, how it works, why it works, and what works best for me.

I've fucked with day game, bar game, club game. I've been exclusively focussing on dancefloor game/bar game for the past few months, but recently started to try and get back into daygame. Had a coaching session with PUATraining instructors on saturday, it went well, the guys are extremely impressed with my conversation skills. My verbal game is pretty epic. But when I'm unfed and unrested + dehydration, opening becomes a real issue.

I could likely help you with a few things, though I having a difficult time working out how to explain how to get the natural witty stuff, rapport stuff and everything that has been a part of me.


As far as you guys looking into NLP, if you have alterior motives for learning that stuff then I don't know what stuff to suggest. The only NLP stuff I've found directly appliable and very efficient and useful is "Persuasion Skills Blackbook" by Rintu Basu. It's nothing hypnotic or magical, it's just clever use of words to help get people focussing on what you want to talk about. It's very useful, and mega powerful if mixed with charisma stuff.


Anyway, I've probably written a fair bit now.


We'll have to sort something out sometime.



Much Love
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~Finesse

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Munroe: "I kinoed the hell out of that goat"
Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
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Munroe: "I kinoed the hell out of that goat"
Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....