Hey everybody. I'm an old guy PUA in training. I'm 38, in St. Louis, MO. I've been married twice and I've been divorced for the 2nd time for just over a year. I've actually had a decent first year being single again and I've never had a problem picking up HB5-6's, but my ex-wife was an HB8 and I definitely don't want to regress. I'm only interested in HB7+'s.

Any tips on how sarging 30-35 year old MILF's differs from the 18-25 yr old HB's? Any advice would be appreciated.

One thing that I want to mention is that I've recently had an epiphany. I'm a salesman, and a damn good one I must say. But I've come to realize after reading The Game and studying David Deangelo's material that the worst thing you can do as a PUA is use the skills of a good salesman. To be a great salesman you really need to jump through hoops to please your customers, kiss their asses, and be a master of follow-up. However, these skills will completely defeat you as a PUA. This is a challenge for me because I will need to be a completely different person than I am in business to become a MPUA.

I just thought I'd share that with everyone. Any thoughts?

Anyway, I'm looking forward to soaking in as much knowledge as I can and participating in the forums.

Also, I'm looking for some wings in the STL area. Anyone interested in sarging with me please let me know.

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Hi Track,

Welcome to the community, I am really happy to see more people on their thirties joining the forum, after all I believe our life experience and confidence can't beaten on the game.

Agree with you on the salespeople skills you mentioned but I would like to add that some sales skills are really crucial on picking up, like for example not showing much interest in making a sell so you don't come across as desperate and how about creating envy by mentioning other people has bought your product or are really interested?

I am not a salesperson myself but work in advertising and can see many skills that are perfectly transferable to the art of pick up.

Bless