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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:36 am 
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Hey guys, my name's TJ. 19, bearer of the dreaded V-Card. In high school I was a chunker, lost a ton of weight. I'm currently 5'9, 177lbs @ 30inch jeans size.

Basically, I just started college after taking a year off from graduating high school, and commuting 30 mins each way, which takes dorm life/most extra-curriculars out of the way due to my work/band
schedules.

I bought a motorcycle, and while that opened the doors for some girls wanting a ride on the bike, nothing really ever happened out of it.

My strong point is probably the fact I'm a drummer. Been playing 10 years, won awards, opened for bands such as: Lynyrd Skynyrd, Doobie Brothers, ZZ Top, Phil Vassar, Foghat and a few others.

While I have no problem jumping up on stage in front of hundreds of people wearing a rediculous stage outfit, I can't start a conversation with an HB7 in class, or in general on campus. Quite frankly, I'm basically feeling really alone on campus, no real friends on campus to hang out with, or use as a wing-man.

So guys, I really need some help here. I'm a quiet person around people I do not know, and being in a foreign campus where I know no one, I'm really frustrated getting over my inability to show people what I am all about.

I hope to learn lots on this board, and change my predicament ASAP.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:25 am 
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You have an inner game problem, I can tell. On the outside you are a good looking, healthy, successful drummer. On the inside you are a lonely virgin and still subconsciously self conscious about being fat. I doubt I can cure you, but if I could give you one piece of advice it would be this:

Picture in your head the person you want people to view you as. Picture yourself as a confident, happy guy. As the life of the party who everyone wants to meet. Picture yourself as someone who doesn't give a fuck about what people think of you and is not shy to approach anyone.

Now become an actor and PLAY this role. If you are successful enough with it then you will become congruent on the inside with the person you are on the outside. You will be this person you pictured.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:43 am 
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You have an inner game problem, I can tell. On the outside you are a good looking, healthy, successful drummer. On the inside you are a lonely virgin and still subconsciously self conscious about being fat. I doubt I can cure you, but if I could give you one piece of advice it would be this:

Picture in your head the person you want people to view you as. Picture yourself as a confident, happy guy. As the life of the party who everyone wants to meet. Picture yourself as someone who doesn't give a fuck about what people think of you and is not shy to approach anyone.

Now become an actor and PLAY this role. If you are successful enough with it then you will become congruent on the inside with the person you are on the outside. You will be this person you pictured.
It might possibly be an inner game problem. I don't really feel the whole Subconscious fat reference. I went from 220lbs w/ no muscle (tight 36 waist) to my current 177lbs with a year of work in the gym packing on muscle, and my current waist size of 30". I know I'm not fat, in fact, honestly, I almost feel UNDERSIZED, but I'm more than content with my body at this point. I'm not done molding it, but I know I'm in better shape than many people out there now.

I just picked up The Vesuvian Arts, and picked up a couple Real Social Dynamics DVD's, so this week I will spend some time getting familiar with everything the book and movies have to offer. Any other reading/viewing materials that you guys recommend? I need to start adding some good openers/back stories to my arsenal so I have some definite strategies when engaging, sustaining, and hopefully closing.


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i say you should realize this my friend. You are the sh*t. You do things that normal men will never get to do and have more to offer women than them as well. Realize you are the sh*t and and start smiling about it.


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It might possibly be an inner game problem. I don't really feel the whole Subconscious fat reference. I went from 220lbs w/ no muscle (tight 36 waist) to my current 177lbs with a year of work in the gym packing on muscle, and my current waist size of 30". I know I'm not fat, in fact, honestly, I almost feel UNDERSIZED, but I'm more than content with my body at this point. I'm not done molding it, but I know I'm in better shape than many people out there now.
I know you don't view yourself as being fat. But I believe that when in social situations you revert back to unconscious 'fat guy, not worthy' mentality. I've seen it before in friends. The mental fat is harder to shed than the physical fat.
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I just picked up The Vesuvian Arts, and picked up a couple Real Social Dynamics DVD's, so this week I will spend some time getting familiar with everything the book and movies have to offer. Any other reading/viewing materials that you guys recommend? I need to start adding some good openers/back stories to my arsenal so I have some definite strategies when engaging, sustaining, and hopefully closing.
The Game
Mystery Method
Annihilation Method
Double your Dating

These are other good sources. I would try to be as talkative and social as possible. Be able to hold conversation and intrigue girls without having to use routines. Routines have their place, for picking up strangers in foreign territory (like clubs), but they do not truly make you an interesting person. Force yourself to talk to as many people as you can, where ever and whoever.

Keep your head up high and your confidence beaming. You are young, fit, talented, attractive, intelligent, successful. The world is your oyster bro.


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A motorcycle is one of the best ways for me to DHV. I still have yet to take a girl on a motorcycle (this is probably more due to me not having a license or good tags than me not wanting to take them). I find a way to work it into the conversation when approaching. About 60-70% of the girls eyes light up when they find out I have a bike.

To get it into conversation you can use the wheelchair opener

You: Would you date a guy in a wheelchair?

Her: ummm (they usually take a sec to think about it)

You: (cut her off and say) What if it had power windows, tints, and rims

Her: *laughs*

You: (Tease her for being shallow and then I usually say) the reason I ask is cause I was in a bad accident a little while ago on my bike and the doctor said I was lucky to be alive much less still walking

At this point she'll either ask about the motorcycle or not catch that it's not a bicycle. If she misses it I say some bullshit about the thieving insurance companies when it comes to accidents to drop a hint. If she still doesn't get it I switch the topic or I get up and leave (Stupidity turns me off). MAKE SURE you DO NOT bring up the motorcycle first after you tell her about the accident; it will seem like your bragging which turns a lot of women off.

I didn't realize until I got it what a big chick magnet a bike is. Make sure you take full advantage of it.

Drive safe


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:05 pm 
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yeah having a bike is a big chick magnet. i have 2 600cc (gixxer and a cbr600 rr) and i always get commented on what a nice bike i have or if they can go for a ride. dont openly brag about having a bike. They'll figure it out for themself but i view having a bike and a nice car as a bonus to your game. Its like adding the cherry on top that create more attractions. When i game i never mentions things i have, What kinda car i drive or anything material wise. No one likes a bragger they are just annyoing and trying to DHV. I had a girl once ask me what i drive at a dinner get together with a friend of mines.

HB8: What do you drive?
NonStop: oh just a 91 Acura
HB8: *unintrested*...oh ok

I ran some game on her and we got chatting.After dinner while i'm awaiting for my car at the valet with my friend and as the valet guy pulls my car up you can hear people chattering "look at that car""omg thats my favorite car"" is that what i think it is"
outside chatter from other people


HB8: Oh wow who's car is that
NonStop: beats me, its nice
HB8: yeah i love the NSX
NonStop: Oh you acutally know what it is i'm impressed
HB8: yeah

As he pulls up and gets out of the car i walk to the driver side and sit in, tips the valet guy and turn to look back at her. her with this puzzle look on her face i replied

NonStop: Its a 91 Acura..
HB8: but.. um
NonStop: gotta go laters *drives away*

later on in that week my friend calls to tell me that HB8 wants to hang out more. I refuse cause at that time i figured it was cause of my car.

what i'm trying to say is... i like picking girls up for my game and not for what i have... one of my pet peeves i guess.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:31 pm 
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some girls will go for that stuff, but not most. you have to impress most with your words.

on the other hand, some girls run from motorcycles.


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