hi y'all I'm Odyssey - after lurking this forum a long while I'm taking the plunge here and signing up. I like that your forum is based around respect and comes across as more mature than the others. So let me introduce myself: I'm 37 from NZ but I'm located in Germany. I've been in and out of the game over the last three years, but now I feel I am really at the point of no-return - where I have 'got to get this part of my life handled', where I am now resigned to do whatever it takes to get the level of success I want with women.
I was oh so afc for so many years, I did manage to make things happen, but it was hard hard going, lots of year-long gaps, really really sucked. I got into the game initially with Ross Jeffries stuff, it was a revelation that I could actually apply learning - which I'm good at - to women - which I always sucked at. So I studied stuff, and also started doing stuff, and I started having a lot of fun - going out, meeting girls, joking around, getting numbers, getting flakes, then getting dates, then making out, then...
well, strangely for me what has really held me back was some initial success - when I got women into my life, I would immediately slide way back into full blown afc-dom, and basically end up with a girlfriend that I didn't really want, but hey regular sex
this would then take me out of the game, since I didn't have the desperate need to improve my game, until - the girl leaves or I ex her, then I'm back where I started, older and unfortunately not much wiser, having gotten rusty on the things I was doing right.
Basically, I'm at the stage that I know a lot, I've made a reasonable number of experiences (need a lot more), but I've got some massive sticking points in my game. The biggest problem I've got is losing sight of the goal - I'll go in to play, but get totally sidetracked - I'll create excellent opportunities for myself, but let them slip away. I suppose basically I'm not a closer, I get too blown away by all kinds of things. Net result: although I've been through the whole process a few times, it's still VERY hit and miss, mostly miss.
I realized I've got to 'reload' pickup into my brain, I've got to thrown myself into it if I want achieve my goals - which incidentally are: (1) to master the skills of meeting, attracting, and seducing women to the extent that I can move through my life feasting on the abundance of gorgeous female flesh that surrounds me. I'll know I'm there when I get consistent results, when I can go out and know I will, under normal circumstances, be able to meet women and in many cases take it all the way through to the bedroom and beyond if I want. (2) In the process, I want to meet a women who is highly attractive TO ME, who I can really share with things that I find fascinating about life, who will accept me leading, and who is compatible with the directions in life that I want to develop in.
Obviously I've thought a lot about it - and one of my driving forces for this, especially for the order of those two goals - I'm pissed off with women having all the power over me. A gorgeous girl has so many guys throwing themselves at her, she has all the sexual choice, I've seen it, I've lived it - they really are on this 'other plane' - and I believe it is the ultimate inbalance to be with a woman who has massively more sexual choice than me. This reason along (although it is not the only one) drives me to master the game and to stay on top if it!, not to wimp back once I've found a woman who is suitable, I realize I've want to always push it, to keep working on my inner 'pimp', basically it is like exercise, I've want to stay in shape.
Phew, ok, got that one out - next question - pickup methods I like to use - at the moment I like indirect/mystery game in general, although I have a sticking point about not dropping it when women give me initial approach invitations and clear IOIs. Still, it makes the most sense to me 'cause I believe the idea is to smoothly become a cool guy, and as a cool guy why would you ever really go up and give away your power? A second reason - I've got a thing for younger women - usually this is fine, I'm probably a 7 on the male attractive scale, and I can scrub up well, and in fact I often get interest from 20 year olds - but I like the mystery philosophy - the real goal is getting the women that I want - not the ones that want me, and certainly not the ones society tells me I should want or should have, screw that. And I feel that, at 37, coming on to young women can be, well, creepy if they aren't into me, so I like the indirect game - basically give them the opportunity to experience attraction for me, if it works (and it often does) then let's go
hobby / passions? well music and dance and travel are big ones. Basically I love exploring new things, ideas, books, art, films, places, events - I've got the novelty seeking bug.
In summary, I'm here to make some noise, to learn some lessons, and to share the fun of it all, and let's see how that goes.
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