Im sick of being that nice guy girls just want to be friends with!!! seeing these weird guys who are arse holes getting women like its as easy as breathing!!!

need some serious advice...i keep getting into the friend zone...i think its from being myself whcih people say to do, but this doesnt help me achieve my main aim of making myself that guy girls want to be with for more than just a friend or be that guy people are jealous of..does that make sense...I was in the philippines 2 weeks ago and tried this cocky, sex joke banter style with this english girl i met she kept sayin how im like her little brother and she wont sleep with me (she was like 10 years older than me) but i still kiss closed her...i found that hinting and making jokes etc that there was sexual chemsitry there but not physically hinting seemed tpo get her coming back for more...would this be the right path to choose with women...
and if so those that i want to be more than friends with whom have already friend zoned me...how the hell do i get out of that zone???

Reasons guys get "friend zoned"

SHOWING TOO MUCH INTERESTED TOO FAST…
One of the BIGGEST mistakes guys make is showing too much interest in a girl too fast. You need to make sure that she is attracted to you and she EARNS your affection and compliments. Telling a girl she is “beautiful” or “gorgeous” is not a compliment. You are telling her that because you want to be nice to her and you think that will get you laid. Stop it. It is generic and if she TRULY is beautiful, she is going to hear it all the fucking time from lame guys.

NOT ESCALATING PHYSICALLY….
If you do not be a touchy person and just stand there like you are robotic, she is going to think you are a funny, nice guy. Start touching. This is a “nice guy” habit because they are afraid to ruin their reputation should she reject your escalation. If she sense that you aren’t comfortable touching her outside, she will also think that you aren’t comfortable touching her inside. If you are not comfortable, she is not going to be comfortable. Don’t be afraid. Create the sexual tension but be able to take it away.

BEING TOO NICE…
Women are not machines that you insert kindness coins into and sex comes out. Learn how to put up with her shit and learn when you should be nice. There is no reason to be an asshole but there is also no reason to be a pussy who agrees with everything she says.


Welcome to the forum bro

Cheers mate this helps quite a bit. I'll give it a shot especially when I hit Belgium on Sunday and keep you posted. Love the kindness coins metaphor!

just let the girl know you like her sexually right from the begining. problem solved

IMO friend zone is almost always a lack of sexuality; if you're even flirting just a little bit, she ain't gonna put you in the friend zone because 1) That's a poor move in the Survival and replication game 2) Girls are horny ass fuuuck she don't wanna close down a potentail ride to the bone zone!

Welcome to the forum.

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cheers lads i'll put it to the test