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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 2:39 pm 
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Hey guys, apologising in advance for the long post, but it's highly necessary - I have a lot to get off my chest. If you consider yourself to be successful with women, please read and comment; your advice would be highly valued.

So, incredibly enough, yes, I can confirm that I have achieved 21 years without intercourse. Bring on the gasps of disbelief :wink: I haven't even got with that many girls in my life - I only first kissed a girl when I was 19. So yeah, you could call me a late beginner :?

What's the story? Well, I started being interested by game about two years ago - I've read Double Your Dating, 60 Years of Challenge, and, the veritable magnum opus, The Game. Improvement has been incredibly slow, but I am confident about possessing some of the natural abilities necessary to excel.

The conspicuously large white elephant in the room in regards to me and game is my height - I'm a glorious 5ft2 (or as I like to say, "5footAwesome.") Otherwise, I'd say that I'm pretty good looking - I take care of my health, exercise regularly (footy, running, and working out) and dress pretty well (or so I've been told by quite a few girls.) Where am I in life? Well, I'm studying at a University in the North of England, currently on a year abroad studying in Spain. On the subject of height, if you're a short guy who's successful with women, I'd love to hear your opinion. It definitely makes things tougher, although I'd never use it as an excuse or blame it for my problems.

In regards to Game, I'd say I'm pretty good at approaching, simply cos I can do it without giving a flying fuck. I'm quite good at adopting this arrogant, doesn't-give-a-fuck persona, which seems to get a good reaction. Eg. some American girl telling me that I'm *mehmehmeh girly voice* "really cocky and arrogant, but I kind of like it." However, I often have to remind myself to do all the normal things - physical escalation, bit of cocky funny, isolation, etc. I've realised recently that I have a massive problem with going for the kiss - of the few girls I've got with, many have initiated that part, or I've made them initiate. Sensual touching and physical escalation doesn't come very naturally for me - I tend to be a bit heavy-handed with that kind of thing, resulting in annoyance as opposed to a sexual reaction. I actually really like physical contact and touching, it's just something I have to consciously tell myself to do and work on. I hate the idea of running routines; I don't have a good memory for that kind of thing and it doesn't come naturally. The only 'line' I use is with foreign girls, playing the game where they have to guess where I'm from (although I'm English, I look very mediterranean. It establishes the whole 'exotic' thing in their heads.)

My inner game varies even more wildly then my outer game - sometimes I feel like the boss but sometimes I feel like shit. Lately, I've been able to overcome the latter simply by approaching, but it does cause problems. The massive issue for me is that I'm essentially faking it 'til I make it - I have to pretend to be some dog with the ladies although in reality, they hold so much power because they contain the key to lifting my stigma (ie. virgin status.) It just puts so much pressure on, and means I'm constantly having to remind myself not to be outcome focused. I'm also prone to mild oneitis, which, for example, lead to me fucking up with a girl I was trying it on with due to me not making a move and getting physical early enough. Partially, it's a problem of honesty - I'm quite brutal with myself, so even when a girl told me upon meeting me that "you're a bit of a player, aren't you?" I knew deep down that the only player in me is the player I'm on my way to becoming.

Goals and interests beyond this girl stuff? I love playing guitar, used to be the frontman of a Metal band and am now working on music to record later on (Rock n Roll style shit.) I read widely and voraciously. I love history, culture, and travelling. I'm not sure what I want to do beyond graduation, but I definitely intend to spend time working abroad. Basically, this whole thing is holding me back massively - this whole loser-virgin guy is not who I want to be, not who I am, yet because of it other areas of my life are suffering. And don't be the smartarse who suggests visiting a prostitute - I know as well as anyone else that it's gonna take more then one lay to sort out this area of my life.

To top off, I genuinely believe I have real potential in this area, I could just do with a few fresh perspectives. So, thanks for reading guys and..... ATTACK


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Hey guys, apologising in advance for the long post, but it's highly necessary - I have a lot to get off my chest. If you consider yourself to be successful with women, please read and comment; your advice would be highly valued.

So, incredibly enough, yes, I can confirm that I have achieved 21 years without intercourse. Bring on the gasps of disbelief :wink: I haven't even got with that many girls in my life - I only first kissed a girl when I was 19. So yeah, you could call me a late beginner :?

What's the story? Well, I started being interested by game about two years ago - I've read Double Your Dating, 60 Years of Challenge, and, the veritable magnum opus, The Game. Improvement has been incredibly slow, but I am confident about possessing some of the natural abilities necessary to excel.

The conspicuously large white elephant in the room in regards to me and game is my height - I'm a glorious 5ft2 (or as I like to say, "5footAwesome.") Otherwise, I'd say that I'm pretty good looking - I take care of my health, exercise regularly (footy, running, and working out) and dress pretty well (or so I've been told by quite a few girls.) Where am I in life? Well, I'm studying at a University in the North of England, currently on a year abroad studying in Spain. On the subject of height, if you're a short guy who's successful with women, I'd love to hear your opinion. It definitely makes things tougher, although I'd never use it as an excuse or blame it for my problems.

In regards to Game, I'd say I'm pretty good at approaching, simply cos I can do it without giving a flying fuck. I'm quite good at adopting this arrogant, doesn't-give-a-fuck persona, which seems to get a good reaction. Eg. some American girl telling me that I'm *mehmehmeh girly voice* "really cocky and arrogant, but I kind of like it." However, I often have to remind myself to do all the normal things - physical escalation, bit of cocky funny, isolation, etc. I've realised recently that I have a massive problem with going for the kiss - of the few girls I've got with, many have initiated that part, or I've made them initiate. Sensual touching and physical escalation doesn't come very naturally for me - I tend to be a bit heavy-handed with that kind of thing, resulting in annoyance as opposed to a sexual reaction. I actually really like physical contact and touching, it's just something I have to consciously tell myself to do and work on. I hate the idea of running routines; I don't have a good memory for that kind of thing and it doesn't come naturally. The only 'line' I use is with foreign girls, playing the game where they have to guess where I'm from (although I'm English, I look very mediterranean. It establishes the whole 'exotic' thing in their heads.)

My inner game varies even more wildly then my outer game - sometimes I feel like the boss but sometimes I feel like shit. Lately, I've been able to overcome the latter simply by approaching, but it does cause problems. The massive issue for me is that I'm essentially faking it 'til I make it - I have to pretend to be some dog with the ladies although in reality, they hold so much power because they contain the key to lifting my stigma (ie. virgin status.) It just puts so much pressure on, and means I'm constantly having to remind myself not to be outcome focused. I'm also prone to mild oneitis, which, for example, lead to me fucking up with a girl I was trying it on with due to me not making a move and getting physical early enough. Partially, it's a problem of honesty - I'm quite brutal with myself, so even when a girl told me upon meeting me that "you're a bit of a player, aren't you?" I knew deep down that the only player in me is the player I'm on my way to becoming.

Goals and interests beyond this girl stuff? I love playing guitar, used to be the frontman of a Metal band and am now working on music to record later on (Rock n Roll style shit.) I read widely and voraciously. I love history, culture, and travelling. I'm not sure what I want to do beyond graduation, but I definitely intend to spend time working abroad. Basically, this whole thing is holding me back massively - this whole loser-virgin guy is not who I want to be, not who I am, yet because of it other areas of my life are suffering. And don't be the smartarse who suggests visiting a prostitute - I know as well as anyone else that it's gonna take more then one lay to sort out this area of my life.

To top off, I genuinely believe I have real potential in this area, I could just do with a few fresh perspectives. So, thanks for reading guys and..... ATTACK

Seems like you've got the determination to make a change. Welcome to the community bro :)


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