Whatup? I spent most of my life abroad and just moved in to Rio.

Being a Brazilian in Brazil (ie.: not having the "I'm from abroad" moves) made me realise my game is truly average. I don't really have trouble getting laid but I want to be as good as some of you here. This is an art that I want to master! Looking forward to knowing you all.

Oh yeah, any helpful tips about what to do next after a number close?

Howdy ZenWalker, welcome to the forum.

Having dated Latin women almost exclusively for the last 10 years (no Brasileiras, but from Mexico, Ecuador, Peru and Argentina as well as Spain) I have some ideas for you.

First of all, if you really want to get good at this "art", be willing to spend the reales in order to get a truly high-value, advanced dating program, like David DeAngelo's Advanced Dating Techniques. It costs several hundred dollars, but as an investment it is truly without price, because it will pay off for years to come.

Second of all, realize that you will need to adapt the advice on this forum to fit your situation. You are in a Latin country, and Latin girls have different expectations than American/Anglo/Northern European women. They're still women, obviously, they have the same genetics, but there are a lot of cultural differences that will trip you up until you learn to navigate them. For instance, Latin women are MUCH more accepting of men who are sexually aggressive and sensual than American women are, who tend to separate sensuality from sexuality. American women are into hookups, but Latin women are into seduction! So, put less emphasis on "hookup" techniques and more emphasis on what a Latin woman wants, which is to be seduced by a man who knows how to lead her to experience intense passions and adventure.

Latin women are less sexually explicit than American women, who (I have found) will talk about sexual activity in a very direct fashion, without any romantic or emotional nuance. But Latin women are much more fiery and imaginative when it comes to romance and lovemaking. So, play with that. Also, I recommend that you find out from someone what erotic (not pornographic) novels and movies are popular with Brazilian women, and read/watch them. You want to know as much as possible about the romantic/sexual imagination of the women of your culture as you can. Also, read popular women's magazines (like Cosmo in the U.S., perhaps there is a Brazilian Cosmo as well)... this seems stupid, but it will reveal an entire UNIVERSE of knowledge about how/what women are thinking about.

Finally, it sounds like you are already doing well, if you are able to have sex regularly. So, as you say, it is only a matter of getting better. So, congratulate yourself because you are ALREADY doing much better than average (average guys, even in Brazil, aren't getting laid often, believe me!)

As for number closes, I suggest the following:

• The day after you get the number from the girl, text her something that shows you are interested, but that also shows that you are not just a nice guy, but are a man who "gets" women, and is dominant. So, try the following, "Hey, I can see you're a really smart girl"... when she texts you back, respond "Only smart girls know a cool guy like me when they see one! Beware, I'm going to take you out on a date, so don't respond to me if you want to stay single..." (Latin women LOVE this kind of directness, in my experience).
• Inform her that you are provocative and outrageous (that means, that you communicate sexually without any inhibition... obviously without being vulgar, but without being embarrassed). For instance, "Hey, good to hear back from you. Just to warn you before we get more involved, I'm very forward and fresh (in Spanish, this would be "atrevido" and "travieso", I don't know what it would be in Portuguese). Can you handle it?" If she replies yes, then respond by saying "Oh, too bad, I was hoping to shock you. I guess I won't be telling you how sexy you're going to be as my girlfriend." Etc.
• Be very clear about the date you want to set up... specify a day for her and a time, then tell her where she should meet you and how she should dress. You don't necessarily have to tell her what you are going to do, you can leave that as a mystery. Just inform her that she's expected to look sexy and be ready for lots of fun. INFORM her of what you have planned for her... say "Hey, I'm going to take you out on [insert day of week]... reserve the time in your calendar and tell your friends they can't text you till the morning after!" Obviously, be flexible if she really can't make the time/day you specify, but don't go asking her to tell you what time is good... she wants you to lead on this.

Ok, well, those are my suggestions based on my experience with Latin women. Try this stuff out and post field reports on this forum to let us know how things go.

Cheers,
~50

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Thanks, 50!

I'm truly impressed by the time you put in to answer my post. This community is really all that it is famed for. Nice work.

As for DeAngelo's workshop, that does sound interesting, is that online or offline? And how many "reales" are we talking about here?

Awesome advice on the after number-closing. You're absolutely right about how Latinas behave. I had noticed some of that and these were all great tips. Thanks for that.

One thing that struck me as different though was the fact that you emphasised a lot on the "becoming my girlfriend" line. How do you deal with that if you're not into having a girlfriend after all? I mean, I get the idea that flirting doesn't have to be 100% true, but giving false hopes have got me in trouble in the past. Or do you think girls will just not take me seriously anyway?

Once again, thanks for the response.

Best,
zenWalker

Howdy ZenWalker, glad to be of assistance... of course, as a Latin guy yourself, you have natural "game" that comes from your culture... you'll have to post frequently here and tell us your tricks and tips. It's just a matter of letting this side of yourself out.

David DeAngelo has a great ebook that's only about $14: http://www.doubleyourdating.com/catalog ... sbid=fpGvT ... he has other video programs that go for anything from $100 to $300. They're all REALLY worth it, but you should save your "reales" for the one you really need... I bought "Advanced Dating Techniques" and "Sexual Communication" and was highly satisfied. He also runs seminars (or used to) but there's no need to go... everything is taught in the video courses.

If you don't want a girlfriend just yet, you can rephrase things as "if you want me to let you be seen with me" instead of "if you want to be my girlfriend." Women seem pretty accepting of casual sex, so long as their expectations are set up correctly (as you mentioned).

Be interested in hearing about your success in Brazil ... Brazilian girls are famous... are they really all that good?

Cheers, ~50

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Hey dude, so I've been going out and trying some stuff I've been learning here. Here's my first "field report" as you guys call it: post768030.html#p768030