Hey guys,

I am a stick like 5 foot 8 inch, 23 year old virgin who is supposed to get arranged into marriage. I have yet to have a girlfriend, and I'm supposed to marry at this age. I'm wondering how the hell can a guy live like that, only doing things with your first and last girl. Arranged marriage simply does not make sense in America.

I'm a Software Engineer living in NY with my parents in a shitty apartment. My parents are set on arranged marriage and they DO NOT want me to move out under any circumstance. They fear that I might attempt to get a girlfriend, which is the worst thing someone can do in my outdated culture. I almost thought my life was screwed because I'm going to have to marry a bitch I know nothing about and be committed to making her happy for the rest of my life.

I have no experience with girls, my High School was pretty much an all guy school. My college major was full of guys and I did not attempt to meet girls in fears of my parents stalking me. And now my job is mostly guys, and I'm not expecting to hook up at work. My point is if I try to escape arranged marriage, I'll be pretty screwed in the field due to inexperience.

Just when I thought all hopes was lost, I read a book called "The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists." That book has inspired me, I am searching for some major self improvement. I'm reading books on NLP, ESP, body language, etc. I'm watching videos on pickups and trying to absorb as much material as possible. Unfortunately I still live with parents who will not tolerate a girlfriend. So one way or another, I'm going to have to moving out. Once I move out I will take classes on singing, the Alexander technique and salsa. Also plan on exercising, gaining weight and peacocking like crazy.

My ridiculous plan on moving out:
My parents greatest fear is me leaving them. I'm hoping that if I get them a huge gift that they wanted all their life, they can forgive my departure. One thing I have going for me is I'm filthy rich for my age. I am going to buy my parents a dream house (I'm a several weeks away from closing the deal). Right after I buy them the house, I will say "cya parents" or something, and move into Manhattan where all of the clubs and bars are at.

Why am I in this forum?
I want to discuss the validity of some of these pick up techniques with someone. If you live in NY we can go out sarging to try out some of these techniques, but only after I get my apartment in Manhattan. Since I'm financially set for life, I will pay for w/e expenses we might have.

Holler. I'd love to sarge in december when i'm up there.

That would be awesome. I will probably be a newb at PUA techniques when you come to NY but I bet we can still have fun.

Yo, I come from a similar sort of background to you, though nowhere near as extreme I was allowed to move out at 18 or 23 for college/uni. But I completely relate I would be screwed if my parents knew about my exploits as it were, v religious background not arranged marriage though but expected to meet non intimately as friends and no physicality at all before marriage.

The good thing about this situation is the fact you are free from the confines of culture and you are essentially cured of bullshit guilt caused by religion/backwards cultures.


Good luck but for the love of God don't take to many ideas from the game literally, i.e the concept that you can improve with women with practice. The notion is taken away that looks and money are all that matter. The book is extremely inspirational however do not run around wearing ridiculous clothes (peacocking to silly proportions) use canned lines and believe that seducing a woman is about completing specific rules: 7 hr rule, look for 3 IOIs, the step by step nature etc. Ignore things like NLP and focus on natural game and developing a better you and building a solid skillset of seduction and relationships. I'd heavily recommend 60 years of challenge, bits of RSD and possibly the attraction code

Good luck bro

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Some very insightful information. I was skeptical about a lot of the techniques I read, and I'm trying to figure out which ones actually works.

I just went to 60yearsofchallenge.com and the guy in the video seems like he has the answer to all my problems, but he also sounds like he's trying to sell me something. The website looks like one of those scam sites, but WOT (web of trust) says its fairly trustworthy. If it worked for you, I guess there's no harm in trying it.

I'll definitely put RSD and the attraction code in my list of literatures.

Thanks for your insight!!

This is one thing that annoys me about 60. IMO he is literally incredible and a so insightful; most big posters will vouch for this. His mindsets have literally got me consistent make-outs, dates and occasional lays. However his website and marketing make him seem like a scammer, he's selling himself short. Obtain his game system and look at his posts on the mASF archive ( not sure where they are SPAM).

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"Once you learn to feel the fear and do it anyway, the outcomes will come."- 60yoc

My journal of adventures and escalation: time-to-go-for-the-kills-escalation-blo ... highlight=

Be the knife that cuts your destiny.


For too long have you went with the flow, you need to step up go get what you want in life. As a man, we need to learn this, the earlier the better. We cannot wait for the sky to shit out gold, we need to create our own destiny.

Ask yourself if what you want is woman in your life right now or just to escape your arranged marriage. If it is the latter than stand up to your parents.

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Become your own man, stop waiting for the sky to shit out gold.

I like your way to thinking. If we do nothing we will get nothing.

I want both women and escape arranged marriage. Although it's more important to escape now and get women later, I can only imagine how lonely it will get if someone moves out on their own and cannot attract girls. So I'm preparing for the attraction now, at least mentally. Gotta cram as much as I can.