Hello there,

I am a 23 year old guy who lives in the south of Holland. A few days ago i saw a commercial add on facebook that got my attention. It showed me a promotion video of a book called "TAO of badass". after watching it i was verry interested in the world of PUA and did some research. i found the TAO of badass a bid overpriced so i searched for some good alternatives. After reading some stuff i thought "The game" and "art of seduction" where some good books to begin with. At this verry moment i'm reading The game, and i really enjoy reading it. i had a picture in my mind that it was written in some kind of "school book style" but till what i've read now its written in a nice and easy to read story and i like it Also i've reachered some PUA forums.. and that's how i ended up here..

So here i am.. a 23 year old guy who works in a restaurant I have 3 days of experience in PUA ;p and till now i'm still verry interested

Now i shall try to describe how my "skills" whit girls are i'm not shy. i'm not scared to say "hi" or make eye contact with any girl. but its more that I have no idea how to start a conversation in a bar or on the street with a girl I don’t know and keep the convesation going on. I really have no idea where to talk about. But When I know a girl a bit.. and we have a "connection".. Its no problem for me to have a conversation all the time on a date.. I can chat with her about anything.. But i don't know how to create that "connection".. with the girls i've dated it just happened.. but what i wan't to learn is to just approach a beatifull girl in a bar or on the street, start having a nice conversation with her and find / create that "connection" so she will enjoy talking to me.

But if I have a date 9 out of 10 I take her home to watch a movie, or go to the cinema or something. Cause I’m scared that if I go on a date to a restaurant or something that we run out of conversation and that the date will be a disaster.. so I preffer to watch a movie so that if we don’t have fun or conversation anymore we can still watch the movie.

I have to say with it, that it's not only beautifull unknown girls i have this problem with. but also people i barrely know who come stand next to me on a party, or custommers who start a conversation with me in the restaurant where i work. i wanna work on that to. not only for the girls

what / or which section is the best way to begin ? i think it's important for me to do it step by step, or else i will lose interest and control.

Also i have a question about "the game". I'm on page 72 now and it's so much new words and information that i don't think i can remember all. did you guys make note's of it ? or will it all be clear when i finish the book ? i found the summary on page 46 (dutch version) verry helpfull and hoped that the whole book has summary's like that so that i won't have to make note's..

Hope my english language skills are good enough to understand for you guys

hope to hear from you!

Cheers!

hmm.. still no reply.. well.. then i'll try to find out myself.. thx anyway !

Well I can tell you that reading about these things has improved my knowledge of what I have to do in order to talk to people. The books however cannot teach you how to talk to them, that just takes more and more practice. I used the lessons they taught me to feel confident going into a conversations. The best tip I can give you is that the number one thing people like to talk about is themselves. Also when you talk to someone, girls in particular don't ask them questions, rather make statements about them they will have more fun that way and will not feel interrogated.

What do you mean with "statements" ?

can you give me an example?

i'll also try to explain my weekend..

Friday i wen't to my friend's in a local bar.. all the people who where there i know.. so i couldn't really try to improve my "game". but me and my friend wen't to a event close to my village.. i drove cause i wouldn't drink that night.. when i was drving to the event i kept saying to myself that i would open to a few girls thag night.. but when we get there it was really, really dark. only a few lights.. and when we walked next to the tents and caravan's i think i saw some nice girls but not sure because it was really dark. so i didn't make a move all the time i was there.. cause it was to dark and didnt feel really comfortable walking there.. and also I still didn't know where to begin.. (or maybe these are just lame excuses?)

and yesterday i had a Birthday party of a close friend. When i drove there i decided that i would conversate with some people i know about there lives, work, interests, etc. (normally i talk with my friends about party, girls, booze, etc hehe) and it worked! had a few nice conversations with people i know (kinda standard i think, but still.. different ) at one point i saw my friend chat with a really beautifull cousine of him and i decided to try to get into te conversation and i needed an opener. so i walked to them and started an opener about that my and my friend ar gonna rob a bank and we need a driver that would get us to an aiport fast.. bla bla bla.. it was suposed to be funny.. but they didnt really laugh.. haha dont know if i have to work on that routine ? or that just wasn't the right time to come with an opener cause my friend already was chatting with her ? it wasn't uncomfortable or something.. but they just looked at me and didnt really laugh or react on it.. :p but then we had a conversation for a few minutes the 3 of us till other people start mixing in it.. so i decided to walk away cause i thaught it wasn't going nowhere and the girl got to much attention from other boys / friends of me.. still don't know what to do with this ?

i also have some few other questions.

If you guys chat with someone. how do you normally quit the conversation ?

And i still don't really know where to begin to learn "game" and which the steps are to get a girl ? (something like: open, conversate, flirt, kiss?, or?? )

Well here is an example of a statement instead of a question.

Question: Where do you work?

Statement: Let me guess, you work at Taco Bell? Your the one that makes all the Tacos.

If you are totally wrong in your guess, she will still tell you about herself and find it funny.

Most excuses that are made not to talk to girls, are lame excuses. They probably did not find the opener funny because you were out of state and it did not fit the situation. You already knew them and that opener is for people that you have not met before. You might instead want to go in with a more situation orientated opener. For example "What are you hooligans up too?". It's playful and gives them the option to respond.

As for getting into pickup,I first highly suggest you understand what you want to get out of it. Until you know that you can really never know what to learn.

The Game gives this wonderful and unrealistic picture of the game, so don't let it sway you into pickup. I would suggest reading the Mystery Method if you want some basic patterns to follow. Be aware though that following routines will feel odd and in congruent and I suggest natural game. This involves a lot of throwing yourself into a situation and just getting better overall.

thx for your reply!

What i wan't to get out of it ?? i wanna talk to random girls on the streets & pick up girls as fast as possible hehe lol

i think it's best if i just start with opening.. cause it's the first thing you do.. hehe.. but more tips are welcome about how to start improving your game and what are the right steps to do

as I said before i work in a restaurant.. maybe someone has some good tips for me ? the whole day i work with people.. so also girls.. and sometimes really beautifull ones hehe.. but i have to stay a bit proffesional.. can't say everything.. so if someone knows some things to say or do.. let me know

It's been a while and I'm sorry for bump, but I think it would be a great idea if some of the older members could update us on their progress.

What about you? Did you evolve further?

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Actually, I didn't understand all the topic !