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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:15 pm 
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I'm 18 and I've been reading PUA forums and books for the past year. I have NEVER held hands, or even talked to a girl for more than 60 seconds at a time. I know what negs, DHVs, and IOIs are but I have never been infield. What I was thinking of doing is going to the mall to daygame. I even made a routine stack. I open with the jealous girlfriend routine, do c-shape vs. u-shape smiles, the first part of the cube and then go for a # close. Tell me what you guys think and if you can tell me how to go about my first 5 or so approaches I will greatly appreciate it. I'll post some field reports afterwards too!


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:42 pm 
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Routines are training wheels. Rely on them only as long as you need them. The important thing is that you are going out and making a choice to improve yourself. Pick up is like exercising.. the more you do it, the easier it gets. It will be very difficult at first. Try not to get too discouraged.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:24 pm 
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Hi. Im 18 as well and can relate to you. What i found to be the greatest help was to talk loudly, slowly and clearly as well as maintaining strong eye contact and body language. Also i would advise against using set pick up lines and rigid routines... I find that the pressure to remember the lines results in the pua loosing focus on other more important elements. All the best!


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:23 am 
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I'm a newbie at PUA material myself, but I am a skilled communicator and I often give self-help style lectures.

My advice to you is to try something similar to the Newbie Mission. Don't worry about being perfect or running awesome routines. Just try to get yourself used to meeting strangers and interacting in a positive manner. Leave people with a good impression of you and move on while you build confidence. If you find one you really like, keep the conversation going for a while and try for a number close. Otherwise just keep moving and meeting new people.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:38 am 
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go out and give it a shot first,

chances are as soon as you open a girl, you will forget everything you have learned in and instant and just go into flight or fight and your mind will come to halt and you will blank out (at least this is what happens to me when facing anxiety, and if you have never cold approached before and are putting to much pressure on yourself to perform some miracle, it will probably cause you a decent amount of performance anxiety)

the more you do this, the more you will actually be able to think clearly after the approach, and then some things that were difficult from before and caused you some anxiety, will no longer cause you anxiety, but there will be new points of dis-comfort to pass, reading will not help you get through these points of anxiety, or make you good at keeping your cool and staying relaxed while talking to girls, only constant approaching and interacting can give you the experience to feel at ease

for starters I suggest you have a backup plan, had a very simplified idea of what you want to accomplish from the interaction, maybe for starters, set a small goal of just making eye contact and saying hi, then trying to hold a conversation for longer then 2 minutes with people that say hi back, starting with, how's it going

if that seems too easy, start telling girls you find them cute and want to talk to them

if that seems easy, start telling them they are cute and you want to talk to them, then asking for a phone number before you leave or when you run out of things to say

once that is easy, start field testing your routines and trying to practise them

just small chunk goals, one step at a time, the less complicated it is, the less pressure you will put on yourself to get something done, and putting more pressure on yourself to perform gold, will just boost your level of anxiety in the field, and after you actually start talking to girls, you will probably start to realize that it is how sure of what you are doing that makes it work well, not so much the ''thing'' or ''routine'' that you are doing, it's not the words that matter, it's how you say them

GOOD LUCK


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