Wsup gentlemen,

Let me start by expressing the enormous respect I have for everyone of yall because going out and practicing this stuff takes sooo much balls. I'm 23 years old 6foot3, 215 pounds, I've played football for 13 years, very athletic, half black, i've modeled part time, and i've had a lifetime of people telling me how handsome they think I am. PLEASE DONT HATE ME YET, because despite all this i've had pitiful success with women and the little luck i've had has been out of my control meaning that the girl came up to me and I managed not to mess up too bad. I've watched and read pretty much all I can find about this game, I've practiced canned material and I'm not shy about going out and practicing, but I often have trouble getting physical compliance of any kind, and I never feel like anyone lets their gard down. Needless to say 0 makeouts so far and the numbers I've pulled have been painful and unsmooth. I'm aware that its 110% my fault an I want to find out what is wrong and if the game is different depending on what you look like. I would really appreciate feedback of any kind and THANK YOU FOR READING THIS LONG ASS POST

First of all,

Welcome Mr. Sexy.

Truth is, looks will only really help up to 10% out of 100% and in a night club with loud music and virtually no talking room, it's still just that: 10% and looks. The rest is energy, confidence, attitude.

Vague enough right?

First off you are not the first one to be handsome and be terrible with women. It's a bonus to be amazing but sadly as much as I hate to say it...a majority of women don't go off of money, pimp cars, or any of that bullshit. Some might just once, but it's just a mere gold-digging mirage.

I myself have abs, I have an expensive car, and unless women see me driving up with it direct or me taking my shirt off, it does absolutely nothing and even then I don't want to be the guy compensating for a lack of personality with material goods - and I'm sure you're one of those who also does not want this...hence you want to be a REAL fucking man.

In any case, ask yourself can you be direct with a woman you only met for 10 seconds? Or are you more about being indirect?

Hey man,

Let me just start by saying looks have 0%, yes 0% effect on your game and the outcome. Some of my friends who I wouldn't describe as the prettiest tool in the shed have picked up amazing women and people are just dumbstruck at how they succeed.

Now I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'sabotaged by my looks' because in the description you seem like a very healthy guy and it doesn't matter what you look like, if you're healthy and taking good care of your body, women will be attracted to that. Plus you say people even tell you you are handsome, so what the fuck is the problem?

Now I'm not perfect either, I'm a bit on the thin side and all my friends told me that I was to skinny to get a hot girlfriend. And at the time I wasn't taking care of my body so I started eating healthy and exercising daily, then a few months later stumbled across this PU community and crammed my head full of knowledge and now I can pick up women nearly every time I go out. I'm still fairly thin but also very fit.

You say you have trouble getting physical compliance, so I'm going to have a guess and say that you are not building enough attraction first. Being a big guy as you described as well, women can often feel threatened by large men, so building attraction is a big one; and I'd also suggest reading up on inner game, because, inner game is just as important as your outer game.

Hope this advice helped

Hey man. I see where you are coming from because I have gotten the handsome thing as well.

Generally what I have found is that when I rely on my looks it takes away from my game and what ends up happening is I either throw no game whatsoever and expect to close or throw nice-guy game and expect to close. Both suck.

As a solution I agree with the two previous replies:

1) Inner Game
2) Build Attraction

I don't agree that looks don't matter, though they can be a small part. Since you are good looking and big, chicks probably want to do you but they can feel your discomfort. A little bit a confidence practice could change a lot homie.

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Wow thanks guys, really appreciate you fellas taking the time to help my goofy ass. And what I meant by ''Sabotaged by my looks'' i guess was more in regards to back handed conpliments ''negs'', being ''Cocky Funny'' and all that. Should I maybe be dialing it down? and does my physical appearance (which I am aware counts for very little by itself) make me come off as too much of an asshole when I call a girl a cute dork, that she is good looking for a midget, that she would be my type if she had different hair, that she looks like my future Ex-wife or any cocky comment. I know that calibration counts for alot, but should certain body types maybe have be more humble than others in regards to game?

Thanks again guys

I've got a similar question myself. I think what you said about people not letting their guard down is true, I think it's because they've been approached by an attractive person. Reverse approach anxiety basically. This is good though, because your value is higher than theirs. All it would take, theoretically, for them to lower their guard, would be a small compliment practically as soon as you open them or even as an opener, and then game them like you would usually. I've not tried this yet as I basically only thought of it last night, PM me if you get anywhere by doing this, I probably won't be able to try it out until the weekend.


Good luck, and respect,

Vicious

Dude thats genius, Im going to try complimenting or asking a qualifying question early (what do u have going for u other than your looks or something like that and rewarding the response with some kind of push pull). cheers bro, i'll let u know how it went