Hey there players...

I'm not exactly new to the forum but they won't let me post a topic in the pick up lounge because I have not made 50 posts yet. None the less, I only like to post when I feel I have something valid to input as opposed to just posting for the sake of getting my post count up like a fucking geek.

I've been in the game for about a year now.. starting off by reading a bit of david d'angelo's stuff then eventually getting my hands on a copy of the game, which I wish I didn't. Taking advice from the book here I was then walking up to girls and asking them silly shit like who lies more boys or girls, what do you think of guys with tattoo's and other opinion openers. It was stupid, the girls already know you are there to pick them up no matter what you say. I knew there was something wrong with a lot of stuff the book as it all felt unatural, sounded silly and wasn't fixing or addressing the main issue with pick up which is having your inner game sorted first. It's as almost as if they are telling you you need to trick a girl in to liking you by using a random opener and trying to trick her into liking you by "demonstrating higher value". It is now I know that when you become the confident sexy guy that the girls want, you don't need to demonstrate higher value, you already are higher value and the girl will see it. You don't need to worry about an opener, you can go up and say whatever you want, why would you need to trick a girl into liking you, she will buy into your confidence not the words you are saying to her. I have gotten so much further being natural and using direct approaches and believing in myself then trying all that crap in the game book. (I know a lot of people will disagree with this but I don't care it's my opinion)

Here are also 10 rules to the game I have learned through experience over the past year:

1. Always be approaching - To form habit and maintain your skills you need to always be approaching and getting out there and never backing out of an approach. If you back away from an approach then you are in the wrong frame of mind and need to rework your inner game.

2. Be Confident - Believe in yourself. Believe that you can have any girl you want. Tell this to yourself everyday. Believe that you are a machine in bed.

3. It doesn't matter what she thinks - Never worry about what a girl thinks of you. What she might say to you, or that she might not like you. You are the man and the player not her. It doesn't matter what she thinks.

4. Do it for fun, nothing else - Never try to get anything from a girl or push for a result. The second a girl detects that you are trying to get something from her is the second she backs away. You need to be doing pick up because you enjoy it and love having the skills that 90% of the male population don't.

5. Be the person you want to be - Start behaving like, acting like, talking like and being the cool confident player. Don't wait for tomorrow, start today. Your inner perception of yourself will become your reality.

6. Be the sexy guy - To sleep with a girl she needs to be seduced by you. You can't be the nervous dorky guy that is worrying what to say or if worrying if he's demonstrated enough value. Speak with the sexy voice, be the man and lead the way with her. Don't laugh at your own jokes like a dork either.

7. Be happy - Love your life, love yourself, love being a player and having to opportunity to go out and meet however many beautiful women you want each day.

8. You are more important than her - Never let her have it over you. You are always the boss. No matter how hot she is, you are far more important than her. You are the player. You are the one that makes the moves and calls the shots not her.

9. Never be to keen on her - Never show too much excitement or be too eager to meet up or ask her too many questions. The moment she senses that you really want her she will think you are needy and then it's game over.

10. Be masculine - Don't talk about feelings and emotions or be the guy girl friend she can share her problems with. Be the man, be dominant and let her know you are the boss.


... I know a lot will disagree with this, but I have learn't that taking the lead and being the role is far more effective than traditional pick up. Natural game is the way!

Holy hell, dude read my newbie post and tell me your thoughts. I think you nailed some of the issue with your 10 rules!

im not experienced but i agree with alot of what you say in theory. Thanks for the contribution

The one thing I will agree with you is that the MM is considered pretty
oldschool in the community nowadays so it isn't common for someone
to find the lines cheesy or for a girl to catch you out on the routine.
I've had an experience where I did the "2 best friends" routine
and I failed...twice That's when I switched over to direct
game and funnily enough I've found that going direct in
an approach is far more productive and meaningful
instead of asking some silly questions. Apart from
that we have quite a bit to discuss kids!
This is impossible. How can you "always" be in the approaching state? If
you were always in that state of mind you'd never get around to
actually finishing any sets! I'm just being critical but do you mean,
have the actual "mindset" of being an approaching machine?
What happens if you see a chick you don't find attractive? Must
you approach her too? This segmant needs some citation and
needs to be explained more clearly man
Be confident? Do you know how often people say that to their
peers, friends and collegues to just go out there and "be confident"
and fail in the end? Where do you get confidence? Where does
it come from? You can't just say "Go out today and be
confident!"...the fuck is that about? You can't just
immediately get confidence, you need to
be out in the field everyday and practice, Practice, PRACTICE!
That's the only way you'll ever get confident in your game is
when you're confident in yourself. It's so easy to say to
someone "be confident" you can do this...when he
had no confidence of the prior knowledge in the
current setting to begin with! "Be confident" is
too easy and completely over exaggerated man.


How can you be a machine in bed when you have no
experience IN the bed? Come on, be realistic here.
Believing isn't enough. Competence breeds confidence...
if you have that initial experience to be a sex demon,
you will be good in bed. But it's no use hooking up
with 2 hots chicks and hoping or "believing" you'll
make a good impression with both of them
in the bed. It takes more than that and
that's one of the main things you're
leaving out or not expressing.

Never try to get anything from a girl? If you're not there to get anything
from the girl...WHAT ARE YOU THERE FOR?? And as for not pushing
for the result, thats a little counter-intuitive to what you're actually
standing for in this entire post. What you're saying is that,
approach as much women as you can, have the
mindset that you're a sex machine...but don't
push for the result! You're intentionally limiting
yourself this by telling yourself this. OF COURSE you
want to push for that result, that's HOW you get the fucking
results in the first place!

You don't go to gym, work on the
biceps for 20 minutes half assed and then go home
expecting to see results in a week when you didn't put in
the required amount of effort or push yourself
to achieve that desired increase in mass. It doesn't
work like that man. If you want to get shit done, you fucking
push yourself and get out of that comfort zone and push as
hard as you can until you even outdo yourself and others!

To say that you musnt' push for a result is the most
half-assed apathetic advice to even give people. I'm sorry,
but if you cant encourage yourself to push for what you
desire how can you inspire others to do the same?

You're inner perception? If I perceive myself to be a turkey sandwhich
therefore I am a turkey sandwhich? Don't you mean to say "You're
inner belief system and the deepest core values of your own mind
must become the outer manifestation of what you seek and
intend to become"? Please explain this a little clearer
as the perception of being a "player" needs to be
explained more critically and elaborated.
Since you kinda need to push her into what you want to do in bed,
and since you said you shouldn't push girls into what you want
to do...this excerpt is irrelevant in a sense. If you don't push,
you don't get shit.

Why would a girl want to sleep with a guy or even be friends with a guy
she cant talk to or relate to on an emotional level? There's no value in that
and why should she invest in you if you're coming off as the nonsensical
non caring asshole?

Last time I checked, women are socially and emotionally driven creatures, they
also need to express themselves in anyway they can towards a mate in
order to really become supercharged with feeling. Women are
also sexually driven and eroused by guys connecting with
them on an emotional level. Feelings trigger endorfins
inside the girls mind, this will
inturn make her...HORNEY for you...and if you
want to leave this out...well that's gonna be fucking
boring ride isn't it?

You don't need to come off as needy or puppy dog but to just
ignore and not give a shit about the girl at all is not just
mean...but a MAJOR turn off.

From what I've read on what you've learnt from the knowledge you've
gained...you need to go back and re-read the game cause it seems
you've inherited some backward logical thinking which can and
will fuck-up your game in the future.

I hope I've given some valuable advice to anyone
reading, I now know why you aren't allowed into that
section of the forum...you're theory is terrible.

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