Age 22
from melbourne ... just started PUA-ing
i guess i call my self smuve because iv been called smooth a few times ... but the thing is ... i want to really live up to that name and be really .. thats why i started learning ... my problem is how to phaze shift from a convo into a number close and after the the follow through on a date .... soo far i can only call myself an approch artist ... i can do pretty well and get numbers (in clubs only) pretty good as well .... so i got alot to work on ... any suggestions ... hit me up

peace

Maybe the problem is that you are not creating enough connection with the girls, how good are your conversation skills?

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Winners have simply formed the habit of doing things losers do not like to do 18/03/12

ok ... for example
yesterday me and my friend aura went out for wat we call a warm up sarge ... basically exercises of tryin to get the shyness of approaching a girl in day time and public out of our system ..... we figured out an opener to start of a convo ... an opinion opener .... i asked this sales girl at a beauty therapy shop for her opinion saying
" hey i thinking of buying a friend a birthday gift" .. she says "ok.. is it a girl or a guy" ... i negged her straight away and said " A GIRL of course " laughed at her question and added " if i was buying a gift for a guy i wouldnt come here" she laughed at this and got really embarrassed .. i felt more comfortable now ... she asked ... "wat r u looking for in a gift" ... i asked her "would it depend on her personality on wat i get her ? " was tryin to stay on the topic of her own opinion ... but i thought that question was pretty lame and stupid .... " she said " well ... yeah ... is she the kind who likes flowers ? " i said " well do u like flowers ? " shes said " no i dnt " i asked her "well wat do u like then ?? " then she said " i like citrus kind of stuff" she added " is she and outdoor kind of person ? " i sort of suggested that ppl who likes citrus is an outdoor kind of person by agreeing with her question and said " yeah ... i she's kinda like you ... she likes that sort of stuff" she smiled and i got the feeling that she was feeling more comfortable ... she let me smell the product and i said "smeels good" and then i phaze shift more to things about her and we went from talking about me buying a gift .. to her buying her own set of these products ... i asked " do u use this stuff ur self ? " she says " yeah . im actually buying like 5 of these in the next batch" i caught her out on her product selling technique and negged her " you r buying 5 !!!???? why would u need that much for !!!??? " she starts to laugh and stutter in her answer " well. .. well .. im stoocking up " laughing while she explained ..... after that i went blank ... i didnt know where to go with that and didnt know how to phaze shift to a more *i want your number not the product* stage .... so i just "fluffed her for another minute with crap about the product and said "well thanks for that ... ill keep it in mind ... see ya "


sorry to go into too much detail ..... but i just thought explaining it this way will give u guys more in sight to my problems ... i maybe over analyzing things though .. but i dnt know .... wat do u guys think ??

me picking up at a club is different though ... i hav the help of alcohol to get rid of my shyness, at clubs i dnt hav solid game ... but i do hav enough game for ppl to call me smooth .. my game at number closing at clubs is alright ... but not solid

and addin to that ... i want to be able to approach without being a bit tipsy .. soo getting rid of the shyness and getting confidence i guess would come from day time sarging like the one i just explained

Hey Smuve...
im pretty new at in the field stuff, im sure others could offer you better advice, but ive just arrived in Melbourne and would like to hook up with suitable wingmen, for clubs and daygame... message me if you would like another wingman to work with....

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yeah bro ... dnt know if u got the msg but ... maybe one day we should go out for sarging ... see wat u got ... more ppl to analyze out approach and strategies is always good