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Mark Sparks is another good one. He's one of the people I'm modeling myself after. His website is mensroom.tv. Heard he was on Keys To The Vip. Never watched it though.

Personally I try not to let the black thing bother me much. Im not as successful as I want to be yet, but I'm getting there. And courage? what's that gotta do with not talking about it? Maybe it just wasn't brought up until now... Kind of an insult to me man.. Even if you ARE black.


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im black and all this stuff iv learn is geared toward picking up white women. (or girls that just arnt black) and its just a strange feeling. Cuz all this stuff i learned was from a white guy, and he picked up white girls. So how would that translate to me being black and tryin to pick up a mexican girl? idk, just an feeling on uncertainty.


and of course white guys would say race doesn't matter. How would they know? Its cool to be an optimist and all, but how they hell would they know?


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Why is everyone here trying to qualify themselves?

I don't care what black people think of me because I'm confident in myself and if you're a cool person, I don't care if you're black blue or green to be honest.

"Omggg my cousin is black im not racist omg omg omg!!!"

Welcome to the forum don't you dare play the race card I'm sick of this bs.

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Why is everyone here trying to qualify themselves?

I don't care what black people think of me because I'm confident in myself and if you're a cool person, I don't care if you're black blue or green to be honest.

"Omggg my cousin is black im not racist omg omg omg!!!"

Welcome to the forum don't you dare play the race card I'm sick of this bs.
lmao u mad?

your whole post made no sense. Just the context of the statements are so random.


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Why is everyone here trying to qualify themselves?

I don't care what black people think of me because I'm confident in myself and if you're a cool person, I don't care if you're black blue or green to be honest.

"Omggg my cousin is black im not racist omg omg omg!!!"

Welcome to the forum don't you dare play the race card I'm sick of this bs.
lmao u mad?

your whole post made no sense. Just the context of the statements are so random.
Yeah. I don't get what he's trying to say. No one is talking about YOU. We're talking about The Game and how it relates to black men who learn pick up from white guys.

And Donjuan88, I hope you don't think that "most black people get laid regularly" comment is true, because it definitely isn't.


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im black and all this stuff iv learn is geared toward picking up white women. (or girls that just arnt black) and its just a strange feeling. Cuz all this stuff i learned was from a white guy, and he picked up white girls. So how would that translate to me being black and tryin to pick up a mexican girl? idk, just an feeling on uncertainty.


and of course white guys would say race doesn't matter. How would they know? Its cool to be an optimist and all, but how they hell would they know?
They don't. They are judging the situation in the only perspective they know: their own. I've learned that all women are universally attracted to the same general qualities of an attracive male. Culture and race don't matter much. Human will always be human :) therefore the playing field is forever equal. Interestingly, since I've learned this stuff, I'm slightly MORE attractive to black women who identify with the hip-hop/BET culture. I thought they would be harder to attract, but they seem to like the fact that I'm different, and that I make absolutely NO apologies for it. I don't pretend I'm someone I'm not because I never grew up that way. Knowing these facts make me feel 10 times more successful already :)


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I didn't read any of the posts in this thread.

I just skimmed some and what I got was some asshole playing the race card again and other assholes (white people) saying "ohhh no I'm not racist I'm this and that and I do this and please accept me"

Stfu be yourself.

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Making a post without reading the thread is like making a summary of a book you never read.

Check out my fly rhymes yo'. It's in my genes I tell ya.


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new stereotype - black people are born with natural game


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Making a post without reading the thread is like making a summary of a book you never read.

Check out my fly rhymes yo'. It's in my genes I tell ya.
I skimmed it, yo.

You wanna rim lick bro?

I got mad fly rhymes too. :D

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new stereotype - black people are born with natural game
If only it were true.

And that's NASTY Badolzon XD


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new stereotype - black people are born with natural game
If only it were true.

And that's NASTY Badolzon XD
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I love you too, baby.

Also let's go to that bonfire on Friday you should of been there last time but nooo you were too busy fucking Amy to hang with the bros.

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Culture and race don't matter much. Human will always be human :) therefore the playing field is forever equal.
I gotta disagree with you here Open. For a lot of guys it's easy to say that from a perspective of being on the top of the dating food chain. I'm a black American living in the whitest place on earth: Germany. I tell you from experience that we've got a lot of negative stereotypes to combat FIRST before the idea of dating us can even become a reality to her. Basically, we have to be the best at what we can control. It's as simple as that, and the guys who tell you the playing field is equal has probably never been in an interracial relationship, or probably is white. For example there are all kinds of reasons why you might not give a chubby girl a chance with you, but it's also possible she could overcome these setbacks and win you over anyway. That's how it is with black PUA's. We have to understand our natural setback (our color) and work on improving things we CAN change (clothes, attitude, value, body language, etc). I can't come into a set half-assed looking sloppy, even if it was a gimmick in my routine stack. I realize that you might say "no one goes into a set like that" but that's not true. Some of the most successful (white) naturals I know dress like shit and don't follow any of the method. They have mad social proof and can open up sets with little resistance because everybody in the bar looks like them. They aren't hindered by last nights news coverage of the scary black man. I NEVER do warm opens or get indications to open, at least not blatant, so I always have to approach sets, whereas my white German friends sit back while the sets directly/in-directly approach them. Culture is deeper than sex, and I've lost a lot of girls simply because I'm not German.


I know some of you might simply say "well if she subscribes to those negative racist stereotypes then don't mess with her." Two problems with that solution:

1) a lot of people subscribe to this stereotype, and 2) a lot of people don't even realize it. You can usually spot these people by the comments they make ("I don't date black/white/asian guys). Racism is usually only associated with segregation and the n-word, and people rarely see it as racist when they say things like "I don't want my daughter dating a (insert race) guy" because by TV's definition, they're not being racist. To me, if you make a judgment about a person without meeting them, simply based on the color of their skin, that, by definition, is racism.

caveat to that is this: which pool do you think is bigger? the white girls who are only or mostly into black guys, or the white girls who are not into JUST black guys? if you were a PUA, playing the odds, putting yourself in a position where there are many hotties for you to sarge, which "club" would you go into?

Also, a lot of white people (girls and boys) will talk shit about a white girl that dates a black guy or walks around with him holding hands, like she's lowering her standards. In fact, most white guys I know (and ALL Asian guys I know) wouldn't date a white girl if she's been with a black guy. These are commonly ignored things but they have huge undertones behind them.


With a lot of girls, it may be cool to be friends with you, and POSSIBLY having a night of hot drunken sex with you, but the moment you try and cross that line into dating them they will reject you. All kinds of social pressure and taboo's are at work here. I gave up on talking to my white friends about the whole race and dating thing. It's pointless. Most white guys can't relate and will probably get tired of hearing about it, so it's best to just leave it and work on your skillset. Realize that, like anything, you have to work a little harder because of your social disadvantage. It'll make you a better PUA.

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hey man...
Im white...
But I am completly in love with black music and hip hop and rap and everything else... so u know... u can treat me like I was black...
whatever...
see ya man...
In my opinion most of the Rap artists out now are clowns.. with lyrics that resemble modern-day nursery rhymes. No content whatsoever!
Agreed!
Mainstream hip hop sucks these days.


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Culture and race don't matter much. Human will always be human :) therefore the playing field is forever equal.
I gotta disagree with you here Open. For a lot of guys it's easy to say that from a perspective of being on the top of the dating food chain. I'm a black American living in the whitest place on earth: Germany. I tell you from experience that we've got a lot of negative stereotypes to combat FIRST before the idea of dating us can even become a reality to her. Basically, we have to be the best at what we can control. It's as simple as that, and the guys who tell you the playing field is equal has probably never been in an interracial relationship, or probably is white. For example there are all kinds of reasons why you might not give a chubby girl a chance with you, but it's also possible she could overcome these setbacks and win you over anyway. That's how it is with black PUA's. We have to understand our natural setback (our color) and work on improving things we CAN change (clothes, attitude, value, body language, etc). I can't come into a set half-assed looking sloppy, even if it was a gimmick in my routine stack. I realize that you might say "no one goes into a set like that" but that's not true. Some of the most successful (white) naturals I know dress like shit and don't follow any of the method. They have mad social proof and can open up sets with little resistance because everybody in the bar looks like them. They aren't hindered by last nights news coverage of the scary black man. I NEVER do warm opens or get indications to open, at least not blatant, so I always have to approach sets, whereas my white German friends sit back while the sets directly/in-directly approach them. Culture is deeper than sex, and I've lost a lot of girls simply because I'm not German.


I know some of you might simply say "well if she subscribes to those negative racist stereotypes then don't mess with her." Two problems with that solution:

1) a lot of people subscribe to this stereotype, and 2) a lot of people don't even realize it. You can usually spot these people by the comments they make ("I don't date black/white/asian guys). Racism is usually only associated with segregation and the n-word, and people rarely see it as racist when they say things like "I don't want my daughter dating a (insert race) guy" because by TV's definition, they're not being racist. To me, if you make a judgment about a person without meeting them, simply based on the color of their skin, that, by definition, is racism.

caveat to that is this: which pool do you think is bigger? the white girls who are only or mostly into black guys, or the white girls who are not into JUST black guys? if you were a PUA, playing the odds, putting yourself in a position where there are many hotties for you to sarge, which "club" would you go into?

Also, a lot of white people (girls and boys) will talk shit about a white girl that dates a black guy or walks around with him holding hands, like she's lowering her standards. In fact, most white guys I know (and ALL Asian guys I know) wouldn't date a white girl if she's been with a black guy. These are commonly ignored things but they have huge undertones behind them.


With a lot of girls, it may be cool to be friends with you, and POSSIBLY having a night of hot drunken sex with you, but the moment you try and cross that line into dating them they will reject you. All kinds of social pressure and taboo's are at work here. I gave up on talking to my white friends about the whole race and dating thing. It's pointless. Most white guys can't relate and will probably get tired of hearing about it, so it's best to just leave it and work on your skillset. Realize that, like anything, you have to work a little harder because of your social disadvantage. It'll make you a better PUA.

one love.
Great post. but im sure most that read it wont even actually let what you said set in their mind to think about it. prob just go "ahh more black ppl bitching about something" and go to the next thread.


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