there!....finally got myself into the forums. Excellent. I have been reading about The game and all that stuff for like two years now comrades. and you know whats so damned interesting?....in those two years i have come to discover that "routines" alone and following a script won't get you far. So, about three months ago, I gave up on the game, decided to take my chances running AFC game (which hadn't gotten me anywhere, but held the advantage of zero added pressure of having to perfectly deliver canned material). and voila! i noticed a DRAMATIC improvement in my inner game. There is something terribly empowering about having the mentality of going out to have fun, not just to build your own selfesteem by running routines and hopefully getting some positive responses from women.

What I am trying to say to you is that in the last two months I have discovered that I have a greater chance of generating attraction by reciting the tax code with a confident non-needy body language than i ever could through perfectly delivering routines with a body language that screams needy and desperate. In the last two months i have been getting away with "openers" that before would usually get me rejected. I got tired of going out sarging because of repeated rejections actually, blamed it on everything (my accent mostly, which does get in the way in superloud environments sometimes). What i discovered was that when i acted confident and non-needy, girls would usually go out of their way to try and understand what it is i am trying to tell them.
So, if you are starting out with serious sarging, keep that in mind. it took me over two years to discover that HOW you say something is far more important than the actual words.

Example. Last week. A pair of HB8s dancing by themselves. They intrigue me so I move in for the kill.
Me (approaching HBBrunette, touch her arm, my body pointed away as if i am about to leave any second): Whats your name?
HBBrunette: (gives me her name)
Me: is this your friend? (i say pointing to her friend HBBlonde);
Me (to HBBlonde): and whats your name? (I hold out my hand, we shake).
Me: What brings you guys out here tonight?
HBBlonde: having fun, blah blah blah (like I care!)
HBBlonde: hey, would you like to dance with me?
Me: lets do it.
I proceed to dance with her for like 30 seconds, and then PUSH her away. She turns around (she had her butt to my crotch) and stares at me with a mixture of disbelief and admiration.
Me: thats all you get ( i said this with a cocky smile on my face).
HBBlonde: Whats your name?
etc etc. She asked ME to take her number at the end of the interaction. Stuff like that NEVER happened to me before, and I would blame it on everything (too skinny, too tall, thick accent, you name it).

This new version of me started to surface last halloween, when an HB8.5 whose friend I was gaming actually told me that "you are an attractive guy, and i am sure you can get alot of women, but right now you are being too aggressive". she said this AFTER I had made several "talk to the hand" gestures to her face and turned my back to her. I kept this up for so long that finally she got so pissed that she grabbed one of her friends and stormed off (no biggie, hot as she was i still wanted her cuter friend). The weird part was that the third cuter friend (my target) actually stayed behind to talk to me after her two friends got so upset that they stormed off. she actually told me "thats my best friend, okay, please be nice to her". she said this in a pleading tone. I came off as a confident bad-boy I guess (the complete antithesis of who i really am). wow! what a difference acting confident and non-needy makes to ur game!

As a SUPERnice guy, i have never had shit like that happen to me, ever! HB8.5 staying behind to talk to me after I had acted like an asshole to her friends! I liked that, so i ditched the supernice guy eager-to-please-her personna for the indifferent guy out to have fun. and its with this new personna that I come to forums and begin a new chapter of my life with, a more interesting chapter.

have fun!

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