Ok, so out of a 13 yr Marriage and now looking for Women. I had real approach anxiety issues, but have approached this issue with the idea that I am not necessarily out to PU and bed women, but rather for the sheer entertainment of the ride...so a Journey is better than the destination thing. and so now don't have this issue right now.

I am pretty good looking in an ALEC BALDWIN 15 yrs ago kind of way, and get got opened by girls every night out + often guy's will talk as well, and whatever women they are with are fair game too. So I have no problem attracting, opening and getting to the hook point.

My current problem is escalating, pinning down attraction and closing. I have a hard time turning the conversation to a sexual attraction degree and think because I was devoted for some 15 years to the Wife and no other I am having some trouble breaking that mind set, or frame of mind.

So yeah, I am all old and stuff and should have this down but just don't at this time. you also got to consider I am pinning down girls that are older than the 20 somthings etc, so a different league there as well.[/b]

Hey there, I would like to offer you some advice. Consider your age a bonus when it comes to this game and older women. Older women tend to be more opt to give you immediate signs without many mixed signals. In other words, they will let you know if they are down to get down. You can be much more direct with your sexual advances.

The one thing they cannot and will not stand for is bull shit, you must always be a straight shooter. Older women and cougars (especially HOT ones) have been around long enough to smell BS a mile away.

I suggest opening with a nice compliment, with a slight sexual undertone. for example, that dress looks great on you, it really shows off your beautiful curves....Those heels are very nice, they really compliment your fantastic legs. Those jeans look great on you, if you don't mind me saying, they really compliment your great butt. etc etc ( compliment but with a sexual reference) See how they react, if you get positive signs ( verbal/body language) then you can escalate.

But here's the thing, you don't have to be aggressive first off with older women, they are fully aware of what you want, they know how the world goes round.

What they want to know is if you are some sort of creep or not, so if you keep it friendly and make them feel comfortable( laughing) around you, you can then start to escalate. but wait for the signal.

Just remember to always have a sexual undertone with any type of compliment upon approach ( no matter how bold or subtle) that way it is established first off and you can then react to their reactions. If they are responsive or you are not sure, do it again, and again if you have to, until you know.

Not all women are going to respond the way you want them to no matter how handsome you are. That's just a fact of life. But if you read the signs properly, you can either pounce on them or get out before any rejection occurs, thus enabling you to maintain your confidence.

Here is a great line for an attractive older women, as they always tend to look younger then they really are it is almost most certain "age" will find it's way into the conversation, try to get them to make you guess their age, if they do, you say this " I would try to guess your age but i do not know the number for beautiful" lol.

It may sound cheesy, but it works. Make them laugh and you are half way there.

If you have any questions, feel free to post reply or private message me.

Fortune Favors the Bold.

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Seduce their mind and the rest will follow.

I notice about myself that I do not compliment. I understand it is a necessity and so really need to work that into my approach, and deliver it with the sexual undertones you imply.

I let 3 solid Hook point situations with pleanty of IOI and even an offer to isolate and relocate slip by because of my hang up. I think if I can get over this One-Itis I still have with the wife that got away I will be in great shape.

So current focus is to try to make small talk sexy....Keep from falling into the "Friend Zone" and compliment is a sexual way. and be prepared to isolate and kis close. Hell I even let a kiss close get clean away....Bah! What is my problem??

So anyway I am trying to get on over it so I can press on because the rest of the package is solid. Allright I am off to try some day game on any woman that comes across my radar screen.

"I let 3 solid Hook point situations with pleanty of IOI and even an offer to isolate and relocate slip by because of my hang up. I think if I can get over this One-Itis I still have with the wife that got away I will be in great shape. So current focus is to try to make small talk sexy....Keep from falling into the "Friend Zone" and compliment is a sexual way. and be prepared to isolate and kis close. Hell I even let a kiss close get clean away....Bah! What is my problem??"

Man I share the exact same sticking points. I can't think of any better way to address it than to send out lots of compliments. I complimented this blond HB7 about the leopard print on the bottom of her shoes and she talked about it for 5 minutes (I'm a newbie). I'm almost 35 and she must have been 23. It may take time to get comfortable with feeling women attracted to you when you're not used to it. At the first sign of interest touch early and touch often.

It sounds like you have no problem getting attention, so women are going to naturally be comfortable around you, especially after a compliment. She'll feel even more comfortable after you touch her. Once you feel the energy level drop engage her physically. Play thumb war, ask her a question followed by fist bump/explode followed by a hug, secret hand shake, etc.

Also pull the girl toward you when you shake her hand. Act like you didn't hear her name the first time and are trying to pull your ear closer to her. In doing this you'll be able to tell how relaxed she is. Just because she isn't relaxed doesn't mean she isn't interested, but if she is relaxed she should be easy game.

Sounds like you really undestand my issue. I was so into my wife I really cut off interaction with women so that I would not stray or betray the marriage I had. I mwas explaining it it a female co-worker today that I have a blockage like writers block...i just can't seem to escalte beyond hook point but will approach it with dilligence an get past this issue. I think you have some great advice/

there is a HB 8 in the office I will confess my issue to tomorrow and seek her advice on the issue right away. I will let on what I learn...