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Came here to get some advice on a girl I'm trying to work over. Been talking to her for 2 months now and things aren't looking so good. Not sure how to explain it but I have other options as far as ass goes, but I want her... ?

If anyone's interested, I'll give you guys a run down of the issues her and I have had, and how things are looking now (not so good). Definitely could use some advice though, trying to get her back.


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Came here to get some advice on a girl I'm trying to work over. Been talking to her for 2 months now and things aren't looking so good. Not sure how to explain it but I have other options as far as ass goes, but I want her... ?

If anyone's interested, I'll give you guys a run down of the issues her and I have had, and how things are looking now (not so good). Definitely could use some advice though, trying to get her back.
First off, welcome to the site. Of course post your scenario, preferably in the right section of the forum, "relationships" probably best, run down the situation, you'll get more responses their too.

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Thank you for the warm welcome, unfortunately I can't create a thread in that forum, I need a minimum of 20 posts. Would it be permissable to post the scenario here? It's quite a read btw. It covers all the issues from start to present, so about 2 months worth of things I feel needed to be mentioned, more specifically the problems her and I ran into.


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Thank you for the warm welcome, unfortunately I can't create a thread in that forum, I need a minimum of 20 posts. Would it be permissable to post the scenario here? It's quite a read btw. It covers all the issues from start to present, so about 2 months worth of things I feel needed to be mentioned, more specifically the problems her and I ran into.
Yeah that would be fine then. I'd say summarize it as much as possible, and I, and others will ask questions where needed.

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Alright so here it goes, I tried to condense it as much as possible, it's still a good read. :S

When we last talked, everything was going well between her and I. Maybe a week or two in, we started getting into arguments. Things that shouldn't have even made it to an argument.

1 - She got upset with me cause I said something dumb, told me that she can still see the immaturity in me, and based on her experiences in dating, she knows that we won't work long term. I got upset with her, told her she's just setting me up to lose, why not give things a chance? Told her that we had a good night, I didn't want to end it on a bad note, so I was going to leave and let her cool off. She got upset over that! Said if I just plan on running away from issues between us, then she's not going to go through with "us" anymore. I just left..

After that, we hung out more, learned each other more. Things started flowing pretty smooth again. We finally made things official on my Birthday. The following Tuesday after that, drama lol..

Some guy who's had a thing for her (she knows, cause he's approached her before) and knew that her and I were talking (saw us together, even asked her acquaintance about us). So this guy..lol...tries to move in on her when I left her to go workout. I come back and she told me. I lost it. I got pretty upset, but kept my cool. But she could see the anger in my eyes. I didnt talk to her, I was supposed to go to her house and get intimate, I just blew her off and left the gym.

The reason I was upset with her is because she knows he has a thing for her, and dude was trying me by trying to make a move on my girl. So I told her, she pretty much let him try me. She claimed she didn't know he still had a thing for her, and that she didn't want to be a bitch about it, so she nicely got her point across that she wasn't really interested. I told her that with guys like him, she needs to just be straight up, and let them know she has a boyfriend, she's not interested...she just was not understanding me.

She calls me asking me where I went, I told her I left the gym. She asked if I was upset, and I told her I wasn't upset but disappointed in her for entertaining that creeps ideas, and that she should've just ended it there instead of not even letting him know there..now he's gonna come back and talk to her again. She told me I was being immature, we started arguing, she hung up the phone on me. When I got home, I sent her a text and told her she was trippin'.

She called me, and said we needed to talk. She said that she wants to take a step back, and not label things. Learn each other more, and still be cool and hang out, but not label things. After that, things got better. Things were smooth as butter, once again. She opened up to me, told me that the night I was upset, she got scared..because her ex boyfriend used to physically beat her, and that the look he used to get in his eyes is the same one I had. I assured her I'd never hit a woman in my life, and I would never want to cause her any pain.

Time goes by, everything is normal. Then the third fight comes around.

We were laid up on the couch, just chillin, spooning. She started talking about her past...She used to live in the hood, I mean like, straight up hood, ghetto, in New York. Flatbush, Brooklyn to be precise. So she started telling me stories about how her homegirl who she lived with was a slut, and every night she'd have a different guy over. And how cats would try to pick my girl up...how her boyfriend was in a opposing gang than the one on her block, and she had to walk him to her apartment so he wouldn't get shot.

I mean, you can imagine the look on my face now. This girl that I like, used to be a hood rat...maybe not a hood rat, but shit, we all know how girls from the Hood are, and how they get down. So I stopped her. I told her I didn't want to hear anymore. What did she do?

She got upset. Asked why. I told her her past isn't a concern of mine, I'm more focused on the now. She kept pressing and pressing it. I tried to tell her that I didn't want to think of her in that kind of light, some girl from the hood. She told me I was being mad immature, and in denial about the person she is. I told her it really wasn't that serious, and that ok, she had a crazy past, whatever, let's look forward. Then she told me that it was "bitchmade" of me to say such things. That's when I got pissed. I told her she straight disrespected me, and that she can never let things go. When I don't want to talk about something, she always pushes it and then we fight.

I told her I was leaving and she followed me to the door still talking and I kept cutting her off, told her I didn't care. She got pissed and kicked me out of her house. On the drive home I sent her a text saying that it's over, I don't want anything to do with her, let's go our seperate ways. She tried to save the relationship, so I talked with her, but really she just wanted to get the last word in and say "let's just be friends".

The following day I shot her a text, told her I wanted to talk. She agreed. I ended up taking her on a random trip to Pembroke Gardens. We ate, had a couple Sangrias, and talked to each other, cleared things up. After that things went pretty smooth. We went back to her place, had some pretty good sex. Saw her the following Saturday, and then the Tuesday after that, everything was fine. She was all over me, telling me "You're the hottest babe!" and shit like that.


Then that's when she started becoming distant. She went from planning her weekends with me to not even contacting me. Our thanksgiving plans? She totally blew me off. I text her Wednesday, no reply. Cool, maybe she's busy. Next day, same deal. Next day, I text, no reply, so I called when I got off of work at 1 am, she picked up. Told me she was gonna call me when she got home. She did. (Fri after Thanksgiving).

She told me she's been really busy lately with work and school (finals). I asked her how her thanksgiving went, she told me went downtown. (So much for being busy huh?) I told her how come she's just been ignoring me. She replied with she's doing her. She said she wanted to be cool, not label things, didn't think it'd be an issue if she didn't contact me within a certain time frame. I said nah that's cool, I understand but I could see how indifferent she's become with me. She said that she's been really busy, and that she can't see herself growing with me. And that it takes like 6 months before she really considers a guy her boyfriend.

I mean, to me, it sounded like she was just making up excuses on the spot, for blowing me off. So I cut all the bullshit and asked her, if this is a distance yourself from me so I disappear or you're exploring other options thing, tell me, I'll understand. Her reply? "like I said I've been really busy"

So I ended the convo. Proceeded to get very very f'ed up with some friends, and sent her a couple text messages, telling her how I feel for her, and that I think we should give things a chance, work it out, etc etc... She replied a couple hours later with "I'm sorry but I'm going to repeat myself."

I didn't reply to the text message. That was Saturday after Thanksgiving. A week goes by, I don't hear from her, so I send her a text. No reply. A couple hours later, I send another one inviting her out to the club. She calls me an hour later trying to set up the club date that night, I told her had she answered sooner I would've been game, but I've got other plans. She sounded shocked and replies "Other plans? Yeah? What are you doing?"

I kept it ominous, said "nothing too crazy, going out with some friends".

That following Sunday, I hit her up, invite her for some Yogurt. She replies "I would looooooooooooooooooove some yogurt but it's cold outside :/"

I didn't reply.

Following week, which was last week, I hit her up on Wednesday, she's actually replying to things now. Told her let's go out Fri night, she replied "drive in with the drop top?" I told her cool but if its cold, we're going to Muvico then grabbing some Sangrias. She replied "Deal, I hope this isn't an excuse for me to dress hot lol jk" We text back and forth a couple times, that's it.

Thursday morning she sends me a text "It's soooooo New England out I love it!" I reply, she doesn't reply back for the whole day.

Friday, she calls me while I'm at work, I told her I'll call her back. I send her a text, she replies an hour later "Relaxing"..I call her on my 15, she picks up, I say hi, she says she'll call me back she's gonna catch up on some sleep.

I get off of work at 5:30 (mind you our date is at 7:30)..she texts me around 6 and it reads "Hey cutie, I don't think I'm going to be able to make it out tonight, I'm mad tired"

I reply "Yeah? Not even and on demand and chill?" (we used to do it all the time)

She didn't reply, so I called her, she didn't pick up, a couple minutes later she replies "Raincheck... I'm exhausted"

By now I'm pretty pissed, like wow, she's been blowing me off, and flakes on our date @ the last minute, THEN tells me to get a raincheck.

so I replied "Raincheck? Sorry, that's not my style. You have my # so you know what to do, if not, it is what it is"

I figured this way, I'll let her know that this whole cat and mouse shit is not my game anymore. If she wants to hang out, she can call me.

She replied "Lmao..ok"

And that's that. That was Fri night, it's now Mon morning, not a word between either one of us. And I plan on keeping it that way. She needs to show some interest or I'm just going to move on.

Ontop of that, her friend, whom she told me really liked me, won't accept my friend request on Facebook. But she has me and the girl tagged in photos of when we were all at the club. There's one of her and I laughing, and one of her and I kissing.

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Alright so here it goes, I tried to condense it as much as possible, it's still a good read. :S

When we last talked, everything was going well between her and I. Maybe a week or two in, we started getting into arguments. Things that shouldn't have even made it to an argument.

1 - She got upset with me cause I said something dumb, told me that she can still see the immaturity in me, and based on her experiences in dating, she knows that we won't work long term. I got upset with her, told her she's just setting me up to lose, why not give things a chance? Told her that we had a good night, I didn't want to end it on a bad note, so I was going to leave and let her cool off. She got upset over that! Said if I just plan on running away from issues between us, then she's not going to go through with "us" anymore. I just left..

After that, we hung out more, learned each other more. Things started flowing pretty smooth again. We finally made things official on my Birthday. The following Tuesday after that, drama lol..

Some guy who's had a thing for her (she knows, cause he's approached her before) and knew that her and I were talking (saw us together, even asked her acquaintance about us). So this guy..lol...tries to move in on her when I left her to go workout. I come back and she told me. I lost it. I got pretty upset, but kept my cool. But she could see the anger in my eyes. I didnt talk to her, I was supposed to go to her house and get intimate, I just blew her off and left the gym.

The reason I was upset with her is because she knows he has a thing for her, and dude was trying me by trying to make a move on my girl. So I told her, she pretty much let him try me. She claimed she didn't know he still had a thing for her, and that she didn't want to be a bitch about it, so she nicely got her point across that she wasn't really interested. I told her that with guys like him, she needs to just be straight up, and let them know she has a boyfriend, she's not interested...she just was not understanding me.

She calls me asking me where I went, I told her I left the gym. She asked if I was upset, and I told her I wasn't upset but disappointed in her for entertaining that creeps ideas, and that she should've just ended it there instead of not even letting him know there..now he's gonna come back and talk to her again. She told me I was being immature, we started arguing, she hung up the phone on me. When I got home, I sent her a text and told her she was trippin'.

She called me, and said we needed to talk. She said that she wants to take a step back, and not label things. Learn each other more, and still be cool and hang out, but not label things. After that, things got better. Things were smooth as butter, once again. She opened up to me, told me that the night I was upset, she got scared..because her ex boyfriend used to physically beat her, and that the look he used to get in his eyes is the same one I had. I assured her I'd never hit a woman in my life, and I would never want to cause her any pain.

Time goes by, everything is normal. Then the third fight comes around.

We were laid up on the couch, just chillin, spooning. She started talking about her past...She used to live in the hood, I mean like, straight up hood, ghetto, in New York. Flatbush, Brooklyn to be precise. So she started telling me stories about how her homegirl who she lived with was a slut, and every night she'd have a different guy over. And how cats would try to pick my girl up...how her boyfriend was in a opposing gang than the one on her block, and she had to walk him to her apartment so he wouldn't get shot.

I mean, you can imagine the look on my face now. This girl that I like, used to be a hood rat...maybe not a hood rat, but shit, we all know how girls from the Hood are, and how they get down. So I stopped her. I told her I didn't want to hear anymore. What did she do?

She got upset. Asked why. I told her her past isn't a concern of mine, I'm more focused on the now. She kept pressing and pressing it. I tried to tell her that I didn't want to think of her in that kind of light, some girl from the hood. She told me I was being mad immature, and in denial about the person she is. I told her it really wasn't that serious, and that ok, she had a crazy past, whatever, let's look forward. Then she told me that it was "bitchmade" of me to say such things. That's when I got pissed. I told her she straight disrespected me, and that she can never let things go. When I don't want to talk about something, she always pushes it and then we fight.

I told her I was leaving and she followed me to the door still talking and I kept cutting her off, told her I didn't care. She got pissed and kicked me out of her house. On the drive home I sent her a text saying that it's over, I don't want anything to do with her, let's go our seperate ways. She tried to save the relationship, so I talked with her, but really she just wanted to get the last word in and say "let's just be friends".

The following day I shot her a text, told her I wanted to talk. She agreed. I ended up taking her on a random trip to Pembroke Gardens. We ate, had a couple Sangrias, and talked to each other, cleared things up. After that things went pretty smooth. We went back to her place, had some pretty good sex. Saw her the following Saturday, and then the Tuesday after that, everything was fine. She was all over me, telling me "You're the hottest babe!" and shit like that.


Then that's when she started becoming distant. She went from planning her weekends with me to not even contacting me. Our thanksgiving plans? She totally blew me off. I text her Wednesday, no reply. Cool, maybe she's busy. Next day, same deal. Next day, I text, no reply, so I called when I got off of work at 1 am, she picked up. Told me she was gonna call me when she got home. She did. (Fri after Thanksgiving).

She told me she's been really busy lately with work and school (finals). I asked her how her thanksgiving went, she told me went downtown. (So much for being busy huh?) I told her how come she's just been ignoring me. She replied with she's doing her. She said she wanted to be cool, not label things, didn't think it'd be an issue if she didn't contact me within a certain time frame. I said nah that's cool, I understand but I could see how indifferent she's become with me. She said that she's been really busy, and that she can't see herself growing with me. And that it takes like 6 months before she really considers a guy her boyfriend.

I mean, to me, it sounded like she was just making up excuses on the spot, for blowing me off. So I cut all the bullshit and asked her, if this is a distance yourself from me so I disappear or you're exploring other options thing, tell me, I'll understand. Her reply? "like I said I've been really busy"

So I ended the convo. Proceeded to get very very f'ed up with some friends, and sent her a couple text messages, telling her how I feel for her, and that I think we should give things a chance, work it out, etc etc... She replied a couple hours later with "I'm sorry but I'm going to repeat myself."

I didn't reply to the text message. That was Saturday after Thanksgiving. A week goes by, I don't hear from her, so I send her a text. No reply. A couple hours later, I send another one inviting her out to the club. She calls me an hour later trying to set up the club date that night, I told her had she answered sooner I would've been game, but I've got other plans. She sounded shocked and replies "Other plans? Yeah? What are you doing?"

I kept it ominous, said "nothing too crazy, going out with some friends".

That following Sunday, I hit her up, invite her for some Yogurt. She replies "I would looooooooooooooooooove some yogurt but it's cold outside :/"

I didn't reply.

Following week, which was last week, I hit her up on Wednesday, she's actually replying to things now. Told her let's go out Fri night, she replied "drive in with the drop top?" I told her cool but if its cold, we're going to Muvico then grabbing some Sangrias. She replied "Deal, I hope this isn't an excuse for me to dress hot lol jk" We text back and forth a couple times, that's it.

Thursday morning she sends me a text "It's soooooo New England out I love it!" I reply, she doesn't reply back for the whole day.

Friday, she calls me while I'm at work, I told her I'll call her back. I send her a text, she replies an hour later "Relaxing"..I call her on my 15, she picks up, I say hi, she says she'll call me back she's gonna catch up on some sleep.

I get off of work at 5:30 (mind you our date is at 7:30)..she texts me around 6 and it reads "Hey cutie, I don't think I'm going to be able to make it out tonight, I'm mad tired"

I reply "Yeah? Not even and on demand and chill?" (we used to do it all the time)

She didn't reply, so I called her, she didn't pick up, a couple minutes later she replies "Raincheck... I'm exhausted"

By now I'm pretty pissed, like wow, she's been blowing me off, and flakes on our date @ the last minute, THEN tells me to get a raincheck.

so I replied "Raincheck? Sorry, that's not my style. You have my # so you know what to do, if not, it is what it is"

I figured this way, I'll let her know that this whole cat and mouse shit is not my game anymore. If she wants to hang out, she can call me.

She replied "Lmao..ok"

And that's that. That was Fri night, it's now Mon morning, not a word between either one of us. And I plan on keeping it that way. She needs to show some interest or I'm just going to move on.

Ontop of that, her friend, whom she told me really liked me, won't accept my friend request on Facebook. But she has me and the girl tagged in photos of when we were all at the club. There's one of her and I laughing, and one of her and I kissing.

What do you think?
Bare in mind, I'm no expert myself!

How old is she? She seemed to be the one hiding away from reality. As for the liking from the other guy, I would have dealt with things the same, although many people wouldn't, they'd say it seems needy etc, but at times, especially in a relationship, markers need to be laid down, which you did.


I think she's interested in you, or maybe she's interested in what you are upto, maybe she genuinely wants to take things slow or not at all, but she seems that she don't want you with anyone which is bullshit.

After all the drama that's occurred, is this what you want? I was in a similar thing not long back, in terms of relationship and communication breakdown, and really, it's not worth it.

Sure you care, it's evident, but things like this make you stronger in the future..

Her respect, seems on and off, which is also shit, it should be mutual and be in place 9/10 times.

She seems like she just wants to enjoy life, and have nothing serious, are you prepared for this? It seems not, seems you want her, but if I were you, I'd take a step back, be stubborn and see if she responds and gets in touch now, send no messages.

In the mean time, get on with life as best as possible and try talk to new people.

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I know it doesn't look healthy in text, but when her and I weren't arguing, the chemistry was so strong, and so smooth. She would tell me things like "My mom and all my friends like you, that's a good sign. When I'm with you, I feel so safe and comfortable, and when I lay on you I can fall asleep..etc etc" So I don't understand why the sudden distance and indifference. I mean, it is finals, and alot of people are cramming and super busy. I know she's got more classes than I do on her plate.

What do I want from this? I want her to be mine again honestly. I've got other prospects but I'm not really into them, I mean they're pretty attractive, but I just want my old lady back lol. Btw she's 23 and a half.

So I guess I'm willing to try and win her back, even if that means going No Contact. I made it pretty clear that I'm not going to chase her anymore, and left the ball in her court. Should I just wait until she contacts me? As of now I'm just having fun with my other options, but ultimately, I want her to come back. :S

I plan on keeping myself occupied come Wednesday as my last final is then. I want to spend my Winter Break getting inebriated and etc, and enjoying the luxuries of having multiple options. I'm sure all of that will keep my mind off of her, but if she fails to contact me during Winter Break, then I'll know for sure that she wasn't really THAT busy, she just doesn't want to talk to me anymore.

Another thing though, if that was the case she really would've told me. She's always been pretty honest with me. So if she didn't want to see me, or wanted to explore other options, she would tell me. I doubt she'd make a date with me. But then again, I guess no one really knows except for her.


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I know it doesn't look healthy in text, but when her and I weren't arguing, the chemistry was so strong, and so smooth. She would tell me things like "My mom and all my friends like you, that's a good sign. When I'm with you, I feel so safe and comfortable, and when I lay on you I can fall asleep..etc etc" So I don't understand why the sudden distance and indifference. I mean, it is finals, and alot of people are cramming and super busy. I know she's got more classes than I do on her plate.

What do I want from this? I want her to be mine again honestly. I've got other prospects but I'm not really into them, I mean they're pretty attractive, but I just want my old lady back lol. Btw she's 23 and a half.

So I guess I'm willing to try and win her back, even if that means going No Contact. I made it pretty clear that I'm not going to chase her anymore, and left the ball in her court. Should I just wait until she contacts me? As of now I'm just having fun with my other options, but ultimately, I want her to come back. :S

I plan on keeping myself occupied come Wednesday as my last final is then. I want to spend my Winter Break getting inebriated and etc, and enjoying the luxuries of having multiple options. I'm sure all of that will keep my mind off of her, but if she fails to contact me during Winter Break, then I'll know for sure that she wasn't really THAT busy, she just doesn't want to talk to me anymore.

Another thing though, if that was the case she really would've told me. She's always been pretty honest with me. So if she didn't want to see me, or wanted to explore other options, she would tell me. I doubt she'd make a date with me. But then again, I guess no one really knows except for her.
The relationship I just came out of, was similar, in terms of the way your describing chemistry and family liking towards you/m, but sometimes, and it makes me think, some girls don't think that's good or don't appreciate it really. That's because she was a bit of a hood girl really and not a great past, but I didn't want to know to to much, and wanted to look towards the future, for a good one. Your situation does seem a little less problematic than mine, so thre is a bit more hope.

I do think you should do what your doing, don't chase chase chase. If I'm realy into a girl, or even have love for her, I let her know how I feel properly, I wont chase, because if anything, she can live with the regret etc. Keep doing what your doing, if she comes back, she comes back and see how you feel, BUT, you may be surprised, another girl, who blows you away may come and change your life, or you may wake up and think fuck this, I'm no mug, similar to what happened to myself!

Women, they work in so many funny ways, you can assume many scenario's or things in her mind, then what you least expect or didn't even think of turns out to be the problem.

So I'm saying, live your lif, use your other options, have fun, and concentrate on yourself, don't beat yourself up about it, life's to short. If she does decide to come back into your life, make sure, you run the show.

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