I broke up with my gf in December and we have been on/off since, its now appears to be fully over and in truth she was a little more keen than me to end it, although we both wanted to get out and have fun. Anyway enough with the boring drizzle. . .

I have started to read Strauss's book 'the game' and although i am generally 'ok' picking up girls in clubs (im a 21 yr old student, who wouldnt be!), i want the confidence to approach anyone! More appoaches - more success - surely??

So on the train i used the opener: My friend has been asked on this tv show cos he has a secret admirer, do you think he should go on....? The conversation proceeded and we talked a little about uni cos she had been doing some uni work. We talked for about 20 min about random shit like commuting (really boring i know) and then when we both got off and went to part way i said: 'can i have your number?'

I felt like a bit of a dick and not smooth with the way i presented the final quaetion. She said: Sorry i have a boyfriend. I was like ah never mind then and she said maybe we will meet on the train again!

Ok i suppose for my first cmpletely random pick up attempt! I waana just think fuck it now, she said now and i honestly dont care! I need to keep reading and keep trying!!!!

Any thoughts would be appreciated guys, sorry it is so long, i really didnt mean for it to be!!!!!

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Holm. . .

hey are you from England then? Im from Sheffield! I commend you on your effort Holm.

I'm an RAFC (reformed average frustrated chump) in case you didn't know what that meant lol, and I am new to the game as well. I was in a similar situation with you and I split up with my girlfriend whilst I was at uni (although this was quite some time ago). I would say I'm mildly successful in bars/clubs etc, but, like you, want to get better at approaching whoever/whenever I want.

Sounds unlucky about the train approach, but its great that you have an attitude of wanting to carry on and start approaching more. I would suggest doing the newbie mission (which is a 'sticky' thread at the start of the 'general' thread topic) and that makes you really confident, even by doing such a simple exercise. Since reading the game 2 weeks ago, my first week was great and I was super confident, but I had a week out as I was with my parents for a weekend and had lots of work on (PUA's would most definately not use this as an excuse), but I am really raring to go again. The best thing about this forum is that it motivates you to try new things, and you can share your experiences with people after you've tried them, which is great.

Its good to meet another newbie from England who sounds keen, so keep in touch with tips/experiences with someone new like myself from England, I'm sure we can both improve quicker by sharing advice etc!

Cheers, Bassline

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Well done Holm on the effort, sounds like generally you worked things well. Next time, be a bit more playfull, introduce kino, no doubt you will as you progress through the book, it makes your think fuck it!

Keep going .

Thanks guys, appreciate the topics, i do think it helps to talk to others about it . As i said i am barely half way through the book so im learning as i go, hopefully my next attempt will be better! I aim to use negs a little next time, even if its just one. I am getting to the section in the book about 'cocky funny' and i think this may be the approach i am most comfertable with, i wanna try it out!

You two got any specific experiences you want to share? I think it is easier in a club cos the women are drunk and so am i. This means i have lower standards and dont care what they think anyway cos im so gone lol!!!

Im gonna crack on now, read another couple of hours of 'The Game'.

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Holm. . .

Right, honest opinion and a lot will say the same. Try to avoid gaming drunk, you'll get stuck, game stupid women who may not bother the next day. Create your natural game, sure drink, but don't get to a completely drunk stage, just loosen yourselves with a few drinks.

ok thanks, good advice man! I like to get pretty wasted sometimes when partying with my fiends, i will just have to make sure i keep the two activites relitively seperate

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Holm. . .

I'd agree with that. Try gaming sober, when your game gets good, you'll be even more appealing drunk lol.

well done mate hang in there keep trying, and if by some chance you do happen to bump into her again on the train, remember that moment and open her with something like...

oh dear the uni girl that shot me down (jokingly of course)

She might not have even had a bf. And even if she did she won't always have one. You could have perhaps negged her for not being willing to give her phone number to you perhaps? Maybe you could have said, what makes you think I'd be interested in someone as (appropriate neg) as you? Then say something like you'd hoped that you two could have been friends and continued to talk about (random thing you'd connected talking about on the train), but now you're not interested, there are plenty of other people you can talk to about that with.

If someone did that to me, I'd be so annoyed that I'd given someone a bad impression of me and misread the situation that I'd try to hand over my number

Just give her the impression that you don't NEED her phone number, she's not all that interesting and handing over her phone number is a privilege that you are now revoking because she is clearly not worthy of it, and she will be more willing to give it out.

you should have probly tryed to kino escalate and maby try some cold reading?u might not know what that is yet but its on the forum under openers i think,

but for a start i think u handled it verry well and i wish u the best of luck in the future,any more questions and feel free to pm me.

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