How you doing guys? My name is David and I'm 21 from London England. Growing up I was useless with girls as I looked like an overgrown Harry Potter. When I was 17 I ditched the specs, changed the hair and instead of just being the funny kid I was suddenly the good looking, funny and popular kid (I'm not being cocky just trying to get my point across). However even now I struggle to come to terms with some of the attention I get. Now I'm not horrendous with girls or anything just I find it so hard to make the first move. Tbh I do get hit on a fair bit but never by the fit girls or the HB's, always the chavvy, slutty ones or in few of my exes cases, the crazy ones.

One big problem is at Uni and work people seem to think I'm this big player. I'm not. I do get attention but I can never act on it right or it's the wrong girl. I read The Game and last year it served me fairly well but now I'm back to square one again. I don't feel confident approaching girls with my normal friends and the lads I tried a bit of sarging with last year have either moved away or are not interested anymore. I consider myself to be quite funny, flirty but just awful at signs. Let me give you an example

Anyone from the London/Essex region of England would have heard of a club called Faces. I went there with a fairly large group and on the dancefloor kept catching eyes with what I would consider an HB 8.5 maybe. She moved a bit closer and danced near me but I did nothing. I mean it wasn't strikingly obvious but you get the idea. The night went on and still I did nothing. I just felt a bit lost and for the life of me how do I change this situation. I even got a final big smile/stare in the cloakroom queue but all I did was glance and smile back. This happens a fair bit in clubs but always the same result, me being a douche. I don't like the idea of grinding them from behind, don't know why but I find it a tad disrespectful. So what do I say/do.

All the best lads

David

Hey David,

Good to see a fellow Londoner on the forum!

Firstly it's good that you are able to get some attention from girls even without any method - just imagine what will happen when you start applying solid Game....

In the dance floor example you gave I'm guessing it's AA that's stopping you moving in on the girl? She's obviously interested in you as she's been dropping conscious IOIs your way.

I personally don't like grabbing girls on the dance floor so what I have done in the past if I've been in that situation is type a text message on my mobile reading something like "you've caught my eye, come over to the bar with me and we'll have some good conversation" (something like that anyway) and then just show it to her. This has worked for me 2/3 times and I've managed to kiss/number close both.

~gravitas~

Hello and welcome

I like your first impression. As for the few questions you've outlined - you are good looking, so girls see you as valuable before you even open your mouth. This is already very big. It also means that it will be difficult for you to apply some concepts of Game. It's a bit different, and I'd recommend to watch the negging and C&F.

As far as not reading signs - you are absolutely right. She's ready for you to make a move. If you cannot read the signs, you'll most likely miss a window of opportunity and she'll get the idea that you're not the man she thought you were. It's exactly like failing a shit-test. I'm not telling you to start grinding them instantly (though it's not that bad of an idea ), but you have to lead the interaction. No amount of flirtiness, humor or looks will ever work unless you have the balls to lead the interaction and move it forward.

Send me a PM if you want to meet up.

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Love,

Ace