OK, well yes I'm new to the community, but I'm definietly not new to the game. However, I think my game is different than most. This isn't meant to be an egotistical rant or anything, I've just come to notice a huge difference in my game from others.
I dont usually even waste time trying to be an AMOG. I dont do magic tricks or quizes. And Im not overly aggressive either ( I'm actually quite passive). But for some reason I still do alright. But I wanna do better lol
I have lots and lots of room for improvement and such, which makes me curious to see how well I do if I become active in the community. (omg it might get crazy lmao!)
I'm fairly attractive but I'm not 300lbs of solid muscle.
I dress well ( I describe it as 'classy thug', no not suits and shit!)
Personality wise, I'm generally passive and have some shyness problems.
I am fairly comfident in myself (AMOG-wise) but I dont wave it in girls faces. Rather, I let the comfidence show in my actions rather than my words. I find that if you are verbally Alpha, it turns the really hot ones of. Rather I show strong confidence through body language and such but verbally play it laid back, for the most part.
And although the laying back and blending in would normally crush ones game, I do pretty well. I dont necassrily get quantity but I definitely get high quality lol.
Some of my major sticking points are as follows...
1. opening. I fell cheesy using typical lines. Opening is a huge problem for me. Once a conversation is opened, I'm an amzing conversationalist, and 99% of women in my life have all said that they love talking to me because I'm a good talker. BUT I CAN'T OPEN WORTH SHIT!!!
2. shyness of the random approach... well, ok. no approach is random. But I am so shy about just walking up to a girl that I dont know. AGAIN, this is only initially, once opened, I'm all good
and 3. OMG! I need to find ways to isolate a girl from her group of jealous, cock-blocking friends LMAO!!! Jealous single friends of target HB's can really fuck up your game ( as we all know)

Well, anyway... I'm done writing for now. But I will definetely be back and I look forward to becoming a regular face in the community. Would love to here your feed-back aswell ( or advice....)

Before I was introduced to the community. I was a passive gamer, and honestly, it worked beautifully for me, I'm still more passive than most people. By the time I graduated highschool I was well into my 30's with sex partners, college brought the number to double that.

I can understand why you don't like magic tricks or quizes, at first I didn't either. But they are something that is effective, not to be overused, but they are interesting talents to have at your disposal.

I like the fact that you can distinguish the different types of Alpha-Males, and it is very true that the intelligent verbally dominant alpha male is by far the best. I have always hung out with a group of guys that are all different types of Alphamales: football players, basketball players, body builders, thugs, and people who see themselves as badasses. Granted like you said, I'm not a 300lber with pure muscle, but I'm 220 with enough muscle to take down anyone who is truly threatening me. Anyway, being the intelligent alpha has always worked wonderfully for me, girls are attracted to Alphas of all types, but the intelligent one will almost always take top prize, over and over again.

Originally I had some shyness of the sort, but it was overcome easily. Don't worry about that, if you are.

I understand your concerns with cheesy openers, I never used anything canned. Everything is improvised from the situation, I find it is not only less cheesy but it is more real. I mean who the fuck wants to use the "opinion" opener all their lives? I find that quite pathetic. The canned opens will help you though, because they provide a crutch for you to use while your getting used to the whole process. I used to use some of them, now I just open with the first thing I think of. Or open a conversation with a guy or some other random chick next to her, then move on over to her.

Like I said, shyness will fade, its just something your going to have to work at. Only experience will help that.

You'll find plenty of effective methods to isolate women in the posts of this forum, I wont waste time re-writting them here. There are tons of good guys in here who range from the most frustrated of chumps to some guys that will teach you an assload of good quality methods to help your game.

My advice. Is get started whenever your ready, and as much as you read, practice. Reading will only take you so far. (obviously)

Peace

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Bro why be shy? just ask yourself what do u have to loose? I don't use any trick's or any of that stuff I have always been a natural so bs just comes to me just say some crazy shit to meet new chicks, you'll get more comfortable as u go have fun and be fun

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"Quality over Quanity, but through Quality Quanity can be acheived"

Dude if you are as good a conversationalist as the women you know say you are then you are sorted! If you know for a fact (which you seem to) that you can keep any woman entertained then why do you have social shyness? Just get in there and get talking! They won't remember how you opened anyway.

Don't do the opinion opener, I find it cheesy as well so I try to only do situational (the best imho) or a direct opener. Just go up and say something situational or if nothing situational comes up then just go up and say something direct like hey and stack forward with conversation!

You have nothing to lose, if she says something stupid or tries to blow you off then drop her! Good luck man, you'll do great!

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Hey bro, just go up to and approach as many random people as you can in one day, and attempt to think of something as funny or interesting as possible. Set a goal, like 20-30 people in a day must be approached (go to a mall or something) and then watch your AA disappear!

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I might have to try this one... I haven't yet been sarging but I'm asuming this will be my greatest challenge. I've never gone out of my way or comfort zone to get a girl but have been successfull nonetheless. I wan't to take my game to the next level and this might help. I've never really experienced rejection either until recently in a relationship of mine, any advice?