Hi,
It took me a while to get to this point. I'm 23 and very smart (not being arrogant there... I did very well on my SAT's despite going hungover and stoned). I was never good in school because I hated doing homework, but I'd ace the tests w/o studying. I've completed 12 credits at a community college and stopped going, although I am registered for next semester. I'm still with my parents due to a financial hardship a couple years ago that I still have yet to get over. I've been told I'm a good looking guy by many people but from what I've heard from PUA's so far that doesn't really matter. I've also heard that I'm very good in bed (ex-girlfriends telling mutual friends far after the fact that I was the best lay they've had yet). I'm pretty charismatic, most of the people I hang out with like me a lot.

I have had a few girlfriends that were pretty attractive, but I usually end up sapping out on them and becoming a desperate mess, scared I'd going to lose the daily lay that I'd worked so hard to acheive. My last girlfriend was about a year and a half ago. Since then I went through a period where I didn't really even try. I was in a state of deep depression and it took some work to pull myself out of that. A few months afterwards I picked up Double Your Dating by David DeAngelo. I read the book probably 6 or 7 times over the course of a month. It made sense to me, and I met a few new girls. Out of the girls I did hook up with I ended dating none fo them for various reasons, which I was fine with... I had gotten my lay. After another couple months I started liking a girl... a lot. We hooked up once, after which she told me it wasn't going to work. She was moving away, along with a couple other complications (she had a douchebag boyfriend that I just couldn't seem to get rid of). I kept hanging around her for another couple months until I finally decided that if I wasn't going to get what I wanted from her there was no point in hanging out with her, so I stopped.

That's where I ended up. Since then I've had pretty much nothing other than maybe a girl or two seeming interested and nothing coming through, or having the "fat friend" try to jump my bones (to which I objected). I haven't been depressed but I have felt somewhat hopeless.
The final straw was a couple days ago. I was at a party with quite a few people I knew. There were a couple girls there and one I found very attractive. I don't have a problem introducing myself or holding a conversation with a girl so I was talking to her at different times throughout the night, using some of the cocky humor stuff I remembered from DYD. It all seemed to be going really well, I was busting her ass and she was loving it. Then the ex that I hadn't seen in over a year showed up. That was the end of that. I didn't really feel any attraction towards her any more but just the memory of the sumbissive state I was in when I was with her seemed to be detrimental to my "inner game".
Long story short, this very attractive woman that I had laid the seeds with all night ended up looking right at me, then kissing one of my friends. Enfuriating. He took her to the can, and I left feeling more dejected than ever. I proceded to drink myself into oblivion with a good friend looking on, sipping his single beer probably afraid I was going to kill myself or something.

I woke up the next morning hung over, pissed off, I had lost a few possessions in the process including my cell phone. I decided I needed to do some more reading and practicing on the art of being a PUA. I had heard someone talking about a book called the game. In fact, the person talking about it was the same person that had taken the girl I wanted the night before. Obviously something was working for him. He'd slept with 3 girls I knew in a week. Even though 2 of them I thought weren't very attractive at all it only took the hot one at the party for me to believe something was working for him.

I got the book and read the first chapter. That's when something clicked in my head. I realized I can't just read a book and expect to be great at picking up girls. I had to treat this like the other things that make me highly motivated. I had to KEEP learning and studying the people who were successful at it. If I wanted to be a good PUA I had to do as much as I could to learn from the people that had already become a success.

So here I am, introducing myself to some people I've never met before on an online forum - a place I never thought I'd be trying to learn to pick up girls from. Needless to say there are a few things I would like to ask. Nothing along the lines of "if she does this what does it mean!?" or anything like that. I want to know where you guys started. What did you read? What helped you out the most? What can I use as a refrence to start and continue honing my skills as a, albeit thusfar unsucessful, PUA? What sort of places should I be going to? What kind of women should I be looking for? How did you get your start in this, and what helped you learn the most?

Thanks in advance,
-MTJ

Wow man, I almost didn't click on the reply button. I just felt like going to sleep after all that.. but, here I am...

Everyone here I believe started out as an AFC. It's good that you decided to read "The Game" by Neil Strauss (aka Style). I have read the book from cover-to-cover. It is "very" informtive. I even took notes and wrote down patterns from the book so I could convert my own patterns "on-the-fly" in the field.

I have also read DYD by, David D. That's another good one to help bring out your confidence and cockiness even more. Good choice on that one as well. But do know this, there is a very fine line between being C&F and being a total ass... keep that in mind bro.

The other things that I have read include the following:

- Speed Seduction (was informative for some things)
I would suggest getting into NLP instead though. That's what this
SS is mainly about.

- How to be an Alpha Male
- Some of Tyler Durden's works
- Mystery's Book
- plus too many to list

I use a little bit of everything that I learned from all the materials that I have read and incorporated them into my "game" and into my normal everyday life with dealing with people in general.

You can learn a lot from Psychology as well. You might want to play around on some psychology websites if you can, and if you can understand "in-depth" analysis, and can read between the lines.

PLACES TO FIND WOMEN:

Best places that I have found are these:

- book stores
- grocery stores (actually be shopping for something)
- gyms
- and of course, not "too" popular clubs/bars
(they sometimes go to these to get away from all the drunk guys who hit on them)
- possibilities are limitless

WHAT KIND OF GIRL TO LOOK FOR:

You should be looking for the type of girl that "you" want!!!

Here's a little tip though... if you ask a girl how she's doing and she replys with "great" or "fantastic"... those are the ones that you want to stay away from because those ones are the nutty ones.. avoid at all costs.

If you want to know more, feel free to email me at this address:
StyleMogging(at)gmail(dot)com

The Game, By Style is a must read

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hi dude