This was a really cool video. It really showed me a lot. If I had watched it before I knew about this community, I would have just said it was dumb luck. But now I know what I know and I saw a lot of it implemented. The negs, he even leaned away from his target, he was very smooth, interesting how he got the girl to give him her number. Just amazing. Good thing to look at and learn from. Especially for beginners.
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:36 am Post subject:
rockin_out wrote:
"thesocialengineer" <<<, type that into youtube. you'll find a guy who is so SICK at daygame, its insane
Yep, he's fairly advanced in his tactics and a very solid conversationalist in general. He combines story telling DHV elements with roleplay ("lets find you a boyfriend!"), and some basic but very well disguised push & pull. Aggressive but playful kino immediately. Mild peacocking. You can hear the routines and distinguish them from the spur of the moment remarks.
Best description I have of his game is a mixture of Mystery and Tyler Durden.
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject:
I saw that vid a long time ago and checked out his site. He hadn't put any products up yet, but he had some pretty good tips on MP3 format. I didn't buy the stuff, but I can tell that he knows the shit. Address is [link]
thanks so much for posting that name. i never even heard of him before
In that video he seems to be doing great. Getting a lot of IOI's from the girl, such as touching her hair, following him when he walks slightly away and even leaving her friend alone to talk with him.
But I do wonder about two things here.
1: He does not build any rapport with her girlfriend. The friend is left alone which might make her somewhat bored perhaps even annoyed. Doesn't he risk that she will give her friend negative comments about him. Maybe even persuade her not to date with a guy she only has just met?
2: On his site he claims that he does not need 7-10 hourse to close (or something like it). He is somewhat vague about what he exactly means. Whether it is sex or kiss close or whatever. Now assuming he means sex it would kinda contradict what Mystery states. Which is probably the exact reason why he claims that in the first place. Do you guys think social engineer is right or is it the kind of 'fools mate' mystery talks about and the girl will get buyers remorse later?
I have one problem with this clip. The audio is almost too good....as if the girls are wearing mics. If the mic is on him, then how are the girls so loud and clear before he even sits down.
Would have never thought of this until i bought the equipment myself.
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:19 am Post subject:
Guys. TheSocialEngineer and his company Seduce in Seconds or whatever were found to be fraudulent.
Check out [link] and see for yourselves. He has been proven to set up situations.
[later edit] Now that more information has come out... decide for yourselves... here is Seduce in Second's reply to PUA watchdog. [link]
Educate yourselves and made your own decision. Though PUA watchdog seems to have jumped the gun on the whole "different schools" thing, that still sounds sketchy. Seduce in Second's reply was filled with "straw man" arguments, a device employed by many powerful politicians. Now, I personally find it weird that PUA watchdog hasn't put out another episode as of today.
Who knows. Maybe some new developments will settle this problem once and for all. I suppose the important lesson here is to take control of your own experience and don't let others convince you until you've done your own homework.
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Ah good to know that! He had fooled me to be honest. Fortunately I never buy products about PUA or pay for access to websites partly because of guys like him.
hmm interesting stuff. Its unfortunate that people will scam others like this. Though I still feel he gave some good advice whether it was intentional or not.
