After getting bombed with pms about text advice after my last lay report I thought I'd start a text advice only thread.

I don't have very many rules that I follow but, the ones I do have I follow them pretty strictly whether I care about the woman or not.

My Rules for Effective Texting...

1. Speak open ended.

This one is self explanatory.

2. Don't ask ?s unless sexual in nature or arranging a date.

Don't have conversations. They aren't arousing to her and she already has phone buddies.

3. Always spark an emotion or build a connection.

This one is self explanatory.

4. Answer questions indirectly.

This one mostly applies when she is trying to get to know you. If she asks about your job, tell her it's complicated, I'll tell you later. Anything that will remain mysterious and get her further invested.

5. Prepare her to get hit with flirty messages.

This one is important because you have to calibrate just how far you push her. I text stuff like don't be alarmed if I flirt relentless with you. Inform her that you will be inappropriate and sexual.

6. Use frame control.

The frame I use is I'm an awesome guy, who knows what he wants, and doesn't apologize for being attracted to you.

7. Give her permission to be sexual with you.

Say stuff like, I won't judge you for being sexual, it's natural. This will turn off her ASD and she will open up more sexually since you've given her permission to.

8. Break rapport

This one is one of my favorites. Just today during a get to know phase with an HB, our conversation went like this.

HB-do you own or rent your house?
SK-are you checking my status? I own this place and fun fact, I don't have a roommate so we can do 50 Shades of Everything and no one will care.
HB-just curious.

I broke rapport right there. I made it sound like I thought she was a gold digger and gave her a sexually charged reply that was also a DHV. Now I left her dying for me to text but, I didn't.

My basic strategy is to send a first text to put me on the map and in her head. Then I warn her she doesn't know me but, I text inappropriate sexual stuff and don't care.

Once I've established that. They usually try to get to know me. I make this difficult by not giving exact answers to questions. I also cut this off soon because I prefer to get to know anyone in person.

From there I just send sexually charged messages followed by invites to get together.

If you had a girl and then lost her, compare your text to my rules above. If she doesn't reply, you probably broke at least one of these.

If you do ask a ? here, give me enough information to give a valid reply. How far along you are, what your text messages were etc. I'll do what I can to help.

Also, if you are new to this forum, as in 25 or less posts, I'll probably ignore your question unless I believe others here can learn from it. This thread is designed for guys who are actively getting #s but, end up getting flakes or no day 2s. In this day and age having text game is essential.

I prefer text over just calling. With text, every message you send can be well thought out and calculated to produce the outcome you have in mind. It's much easier than you think. Just follow the rules above.

_________________
Best lay report ever written: daygame-texting-sexting-and-epic-f-close-vt159146.html

My text advice thread: slipknot-text-advice-thread-vt159416.html

me - i'll be in bed so no late night bootie calls please!
her - hahaha you knob (you know i can help myself) hahaha! Have to go out with you and the boys soon
Me - oo you can help yourself we would love you to come out so you get perved on and we see you for the whole part of 10 minutes!
Her - not my fault i saw all my old school friends who i havn't seen in years! Next time i promiseto stay close! You can even hancuff me! (not like that don't get ideas)
Me - hancuffed aye? i didn't put you down as that kinda lady! I guess you did help me both times we where out.
her - i did i'm a god send


next day


me - so im guessing your favourite colour is 50 shades of grey?
Her - huh?
me - It's okay (her name) i know about your handcuffing fantasys! I'm pressuming you couldn't ressist the urges of the wasteland known as the club
her - the urges just explode out of me! hahah i might be going tonight see what happens.
me - i may come too if a threesomes involved

and she hasn't replied i think i may have fluffed it on the last text advice?

Need advice ... my text game is pretty good when i talk CF stuff but i have problem with building sexual tension. I already had 2 dates with this chick and no f-close yet.
We already spoke about sex and from what she said (like that she slept with girl, and had sex while other people were watching her) i though she is rly sexual person but when we meet up she is rly shy. Could it be that she has made it all up? well i just need an advice on how to set a sexual frame so next time we meet its going to be a f-close.

I tried something like. (she is an artist) this is IM conversation:

me: I totally forgot you own me an drawing. (we spoke earlier about drawing acts but she doesnt have sexy guys in class to draw)
her:oo shit!! :/ )
me: dont worry i dont want you to feel guilty we set up a date and you can draw me
her: i didnt feel guilty
me: dont even say that... anyway we set up a date and you can go for it
her: even so? :/ )
me: dont worry you will get reward.... as motivation so you dont screw up
her: that needs to be a great motivation
me: you bet the best one
her: and that is?
me: depends on how you make your job. If i will be satisfied you will be as well.
her: and if you are going to be very satisfied?
me: so are you
her: i knew i will get such an answer
me: you didnt even have to ask... but i think you just wanted such an answer

and the conversation continued like this until she said she didnt have a mood draw for couple of weeks. And said she is tired and told me good night and left... i freezed her out for couple days untill she send me a msg... but point is i need to set a more sexual frame so she knows then next time we meet its going to be wild. any idea?? thx

One more thing.

I used your poking routine. So far works good but i had this girl i dont know how to continue.

ME:Poking routine
HER:i can tell the same to you
ME: Dangerous side and so on:
HER:when i am in mood i poke back... poking doesnt mean anything

she seems like not much of a fun from the response but what would be the best msg to continue with?
i thought of something like... so what means something to you? but the longer i think about it the more AFC it sounds... or should i go like... "well i dont usualy poke people but you look very pokable... is there more about you then just the look?" ... thx for advice

I've never used the poking routine so I'm not familiar with it.

As far as continuing with her, don't ask her a ? unless it is sexual or arranging a date.

Read the rules and don't brake them ever.

_________________
Best lay report ever written: daygame-texting-sexting-and-epic-f-close-vt159146.html

My text advice thread: slipknot-text-advice-thread-vt159416.html

Ahh sorry man its from whoopies thread and i got from there on your other thread so i somehow thought its yours

Girl who I've K-closed in the past (ages ago) but who thinks I'm a player, she came round mine for a lunchtime bacon sandwich and cup of tea about 3 weeks ago but I wasn't feeling it from her body language and didn't escalate (even when she was sitting on my bed on my laptop! so stupid).. she's a definite hb8 who annoyingly has a boyfriend

Slip how would you respond if this girl text you saying "Hi x"..

Usually I would respond with something along the lines of this (which I know breaks the rules above):

"Hey trouble, how's it going? x" - this is a boring question and doesn't evoke an emotional response..

So what exactly would you suggest?

_________________
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

For starters, you should have at least tried when she was in bed. You can arouse her even if initially she seems cold.

Don't be afraid to lose her, you ARE the prize. Try one of these...

Hey bratface, we haven't made out in so long you probably forgot how.

I only got you that because I still want a shot at your hot ass. Is it working?

Wow, you are still alive. Now we can hookup but, only if you're nice back to me.

I just read a new book, I'm gonna test it out on you.

I'm really hard right now, and by that I mean you're welcome babe.

One of those should get a response.

_________________
Best lay report ever written: daygame-texting-sexting-and-epic-f-close-vt159146.html

My text advice thread: slipknot-text-advice-thread-vt159416.html

I used the book one because the others seemed a bit too risky for this girl haha, I looked at some of your other posts and tried to model things after them:

Her: Hi x
Me: Hey guess what i just read a sweet book, I'm gonna test it out on you
Her: haha what book was it?
Me: nah nevermind, I'll tell you another time.. Let's go for a drink next week tho when we're back at uni
Her: yeah sure if i'm free so how's your easter been?
Me: went to the zoo and stole a monkey
Her: haha what?
Me: yeah he's called fred i'll introduce you to him next week
Her: haha

Now I've got a few questions,

was it bad that I didn't respond with a kiss which resulted in her dropping the kiss aswell?

What should i say when she asks me about the book?

How long do you suggest waiting before replying in general?

I hate it when they don't give me anything to work with in a reply, how could i have responded to her last text?

cheers mate, appreciate it

_________________
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

That was a good exchange you shared. You followed the rules and see how easy that was?

I won't usually end a text with a kiss. I do sometimes phrase the end of a text with smooches to your as. XO
I don't use emoticons, those are AFC most of the time.

As far as timing, I will match her pace or wait longer. If I think she is dieing for a response, I'll ignore her to get her further invested.
Timing is more forgivable than a bad or bland text.


To the ha ha or lols, I'll either flirt more or ask her for a specific get together.

You could say something like...

Fred knows his shit. If he approves of you, it's official. Your'e sexy
When you said "when you're free," did you plan on charging me or something?
I hid an Easter Basket in my pants, if you find it, it has millions of eggs.
This is nothing to laugh at girl. When I say we're going out next week, I mean it.
You laugh too much babe, I'm not a virgin. Just sayin'

If she inquires about the book. It's 50 Shades of Non of Your Business.

Keep it up BlueWolf, it' like cheating the system in my world.

_________________
Best lay report ever written: daygame-texting-sexting-and-epic-f-close-vt159146.html

My text advice thread: slipknot-text-advice-thread-vt159416.html

So i got this girls number yesterday, was texting her that day,be prepared for flirty txt messages and shit like, i think shes into me but now, today should i txt, maybe wait another day?? start with the sexual flirty txts again and see how she responds, shes kinda young though (17), im 18, i dont know how she will take it but ill go based on how she replies. How should i go about meeting up with her, take her out to dinner 1 night? asking her to come over? dinner then ask her to come over. Should i ask her what she doing this weekend and set up plans today/tommorow or have more playful txts messages and ask her what shes doing later this week. I think i just need to know a "unofficial schedule" to follow in order not to rush things??? i dont know if im making sense here but i can use some feedback.

Heres the convo.

It was going really well, she was calling me cute and shit, we had nice banter, i ended up saying some stupid shit but w/e idt its that big of a deal but this is the 2nd half of the convo

Me- can you ever forgive me for me and my big mouth (i think this was a bad txt but i was drawing blanks and didnt know what to write)

her- haha yeah i guess i could do that
me- ok good, now back to me being a asshole
me- just kidding (maybe shouldnt have sent that)
her- its ok i dont think you could help it if you tried
me- im actually quite chivalrous, open the door, pay for the meal, thats me (maybe shouldve put something sexual at the end)
her- good but im a raging feminist so i dont allow any of that
me-does that mean you only eat females, ill take you out for a meal but i dont know if any restaurants serve that
her- haha no im totally joking but how weird are feminist like its 2013 if your a feminist then your just a crank bitch
me- if i love women, am i a feminist?
her- haha nope

I myself try to set first dates M-Th. I also don't like dinners or movies. Since you're not 21 , is there something else you could do? Bowling, playing pool, mini golf, the driving range, shopping,going for a walk around the lake, going to a park and just fucking around by the playground. Try to pick something not expensive and exciting and fun to do.

Try to not always be the one initiating contact.

Don't tell her your chivalrous and pay for shit and act like a pussy. Being nice to her is fine, just don't kiss her ass on put her on a pedestal. Don't ask forgiveness either.

Make plans and don't ask her what she wants to do. Wait a few days since your just barely in her head and use your last exchange to kick things off...

If she contacts you, great if not try something along these lines.

you-babe, I flirt relentless with chicks like you
her-blah blah
you-now that we both on the same page and think feminists are crazy, let's get together and xxxxxxxxx
her-blah
you-I don't have sex on the first date. If you play your cards right we can go to 2nd. base. Don't tell anyone though.
her-blah blah

or
you-I'm only an asshole to chicks I like
her-blah
you-you seem like the type of gal I want to go out with soon.
her-blah
you-Ill pick you (whenever) so just be ready to go at 7:00.

If she agrees, than get together and maintain the frame that you aren't afraid to go after what he wants. Get the kissing started sooner than later.

If anyone else around this age could give him some date ideas that would be great to share them.

_________________
Best lay report ever written: daygame-texting-sexting-and-epic-f-close-vt159146.html

My text advice thread: slipknot-text-advice-thread-vt159416.html

One of the girls from last night, hb 6-7 but real cool with nice boobs..

Me: I'm *****
Her: Oh I know who you are.
Me: Oh, are you my stalker? I wondered who i've been seeing outside my window..
Her: haha noooooo we're friends on facebook
Me: haha no way! what's your name?
Her: blah blah
Me: blah blah
Me: you seem like a cool girl, let me get your number and we'll do something

She gave me her number and then we had a few light kisses on the lips but she wouldn't let me kiss her properly so i need to escalate massively next time i see her if i don't want to be stuck in a rut..

So here's what I'm planning on texting her later..

"Haha so we are facebook friends! I'm definitely gonna poke you "

Tell me what you think?

_________________
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

I would go with one of these but, wait until at least tommorrow...

Are we gonna be FB friends, or FB friends with benefits?

I'm gonna poke you all the time. And by that I mean not just on FB.

skip the emoticons

SK

_________________
Best lay report ever written: daygame-texting-sexting-and-epic-f-close-vt159146.html

My text advice thread: slipknot-text-advice-thread-vt159416.html

hey slipknot i really dig your style. I'm new to these boards but i been sarging longing enough to consistently get # closes. Last month a stripper (HB 9) gave me her number after I played some solid stripper game. I ooze with confidence in person, but when I start texting I hit a wall. Getting day 2s are my biggest sticking point.

Comparing my texts to your text advice, I see I've made some serious mistakes. Without going into too much detail, I tried to keep the conversation to a minimum and ask her out. We've been unable to meet up because "she works a lot." Anyway she is a songwriter and that really attracted me to her because I am too. It had been a few days since I had text her and I didnt know what to say. In a act of desperation I asked her to give me some feedback on some of my music. (It had recently worked on this singer chick that wasnt giving me any iois through text until I sent her some of my work) The girl sent me her email and I sent the tracks but I havent gotten any response. That was on saturday and today is now thursday. Now i feel like a dumb ass AFC for sending her my music. Because I was honestly trying to impress her and I was definitely qualifying myself to her.

Anyway I dont think I have blown it totally. I think I can turn it around. I would like to make it sexual. She is a dancer and it would be a blast to sext her.

My question is do you think its too late to change from the playing it safe frame I had been using.. to now the overtly sexual? And what can I say to get this started and still sound authentic?

Thanks for your help