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wesmantooth
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 Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:12 am Post subject: Problem with keeping the attention of everyone in a set. |
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So me and my friend went out last night sargeing. This was the first
time I really went out with the goal of practicing this so it was a
good learning experience for us both. We each opened probably 10 sets
with several different openers.
I think my biggest problem was holding the attention of the entire
set. It wasn't that hard with a 2 set but once it got to 3 and more I
could only keep one or two of them listening to me while the others
talked with other people or got distracted or just didn't pay attention.
The other problem I was having was what to do after the opener was
discussed. I tried rocking out for a second and then asking "How do
you all know each other?" But then they would just say something like
"We're roommates." and I wouldn't know where to take it. Usually I
just tried to make some convo and then bailed with "Pleasure meeting you."
Overall I felt like I did pretty well for my first time really working
this and I feel like I have gotten rid of most of my AA. I could just
use some help with the sticking points above. |
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JSmooth
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This is a great question, as a lot of guys starting out get hung up here. Sounds like you did well getting openers in. You did the right thing by asking "How do you all know each other?" Sounds like you did a lot of things right.
To answer your first question of "How do I keep the attention of the group?" Is actually the same answer to What do I do after I say, "How do you all know each other?" So thank for you taking it easy on me.
The short answer is A2 phase of the Mystery Method, or "Female to Male" Attraction. So basically, you engage the other people in the group with DHV stories or routines about yourself. Demonstration of Higher Value stories demonstrate: Preselection, Leader of Men, or Protector of Loved one Qualities. While you are doing these stories you will neg your target some. The hotter the girl the more you will neg her. For example you won't Neg an 7 but maybe twice and a 9 or 10 you would neg three or four good times.
A neg is just a back handed compliment, or a false disqualifier. Something like, "You're pretty tall, I like tall girls, what are those 2...3 inch heels!" or "You are too much of a nice girl for me." There is a great list of negs on the forum if you need them. Seach for the "Ulimate Negs Collection."
So you are telling these stories about you to the group and to attract the target. You are negging her playfully. You at this time also need to be looking for IOIs or Indicators of Interest from the target. As a guideline you are looking for 3. Things like her touching her hair, laughing at jokes that aren't funny, scratching the back of her hand, etc. Again there are list of these on the forum too.
When you receive 3 IOIs then you are going to transition slowly to A3 Male to Female Interest. In A3 is just the opposite of A2, you need the girl to DHV herself to you, so you can show interest in her. You do this by asking questions about her. There are posts on the forum for this as well.
Hope it helps! |
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Xfiend
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to have people (or get people) INTERESTED in you, you have to be INTERESTING.
these things include interesting DHV stories (not ho hum ones). You need to use a voice that commands attention, and you need to be, MOST importantly, FUNNY. |
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OK had this happen to me:
Open a HB on one side of a counter in the store, talking, DHV'ing, goes well, IOI's. Then another HB diagonally across on the other side opens me, almost 190 degrees opposite the original HB. Wtf? Now they're both talking to me, pining for my attention, and I can't give them both attention at the same time whipping my head left and right. They apparently know each other too. Solutions? (Mine was to ignore the second HB and focus on the first) |
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wesmantooth
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| jsmooth37076 wrote: | This is a great question, as a lot of guys starting out get hung up here. Sounds like you did well getting openers in. You did the right thing by asking "How do you all know each other?" Sounds like you did a lot of things right.
To answer your first question of "How do I keep the attention of the group?" Is actually the same answer to What do I do after I say, "How do you all know each other?" So thank for you taking it easy on me.
The short answer is A2 phase of the Mystery Method, or "Female to Male" Attraction. So basically, you engage the other people in the group with DHV stories or routines about yourself. Demonstration of Higher Value stories demonstrate: Preselection, Leader of Men, or Protector of Loved one Qualities. While you are doing these stories you will neg your target some. The hotter the girl the more you will neg her. For example you won't Neg an 7 but maybe twice and a 9 or 10 you would neg three or four good times.
A neg is just a back handed compliment, or a false disqualifier. Something like, "You're pretty tall, I like tall girls, what are those 2...3 inch heels!" or "You are too much of a nice girl for me." There is a great list of negs on the forum if you need them. Seach for the "Ulimate Negs Collection."
So you are telling these stories about you to the group and to attract the target. You are negging her playfully. You at this time also need to be looking for IOIs or Indicators of Interest from the target. As a guideline you are looking for 3. Things like her touching her hair, laughing at jokes that aren't funny, scratching the back of her hand, etc. Again there are list of these on the forum too.
When you receive 3 IOIs then you are going to transition slowly to A3 Male to Female Interest. In A3 is just the opposite of A2, you need the girl to DHV herself to you, so you can show interest in her. You do this by asking questions about her. There are posts on the forum for this as well.
Hope it helps! |
Thanks for the in depth post I think it will be very helpful. |
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JSmooth
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| You are welcome! |
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