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Secret
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 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:32 am Post subject: Neil Strauss: The Game |
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"He explained the emotions Caroline and I were feeling best: We have
this idea that love is supposed to last forever. But love isn't like that. It's a
free-flowing energy that comes and goes when it pleases. Sometimes it stays for life; other times it stays for a second, a day, a month, or a year. So don't fear love when it comes simply because it makes you vulnerable. But don't be surprised when it leaves, either."
This directly contradicts the message in Seven Habits of the Highly Effective Individual, something I really recommend for Inner Game. Here love is described as something that you can control. It uses love as an example for something that people rationalize as merely an externality where really they have total control over it. If you chose to love: act benevolently and lovingly to the person you choose to love it becomes reality. |
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white_russian
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ok and???
most of us have read that book already man |
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MarcDElux
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:09 am Post subject: Re: Neil Strauss: The Game |
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| Secret wrote: | "He explained the emotions Caroline and I were feeling best: We have
this idea that love is supposed to last forever. But love isn't like that. It's a
free-flowing energy that comes and goes when it pleases. Sometimes it stays for life; other times it stays for a second, a day, a month, or a year. So don't fear love when it comes simply because it makes you vulnerable. But don't be surprised when it leaves, either."
This directly contradicts the message in Seven Habits of the Highly Effective Individual, something I really recommend for Inner Game. Here love is described as something that you can control. It uses love as an example for something that people rationalize as merely an externality where really they have total control over it. If you chose to love: act benevolently and lovingly to the person you choose to love it becomes reality. |
Umm whats the point of this??  |
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Jack 'O'
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white_russian
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| weird shit man! |
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Holden
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| Quote: | | Here love is described as something that you can control. |
Control implys need. Need implies insecurity. Insecurity is AFC Behaviour.
The same with Want. Want implies Insecurity. Insecurity implys a lack of options. No Options = AFC.
A relationship to the point of pairbonding is without insecurity and should be without jelousy. If you followed the advice above, you'd wait up to an empty bed someday and have no clue why. |
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Bedrock
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....Ok. We have all read the book. It is almost like a requirement to read The Game to be a PUA.
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RsoeHelk
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| Ha everyone knows that The Game is like a requirement to being a PUA..lol |
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Roads
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Ah get over the book thing guys, he's talking about the concept of love.
In The Game, mPUA Style describes it as something that cannot be controlled. In the other book, it is allegedly described as something that can be controlled---I have not read the book so I do not know if this is the message the author wishes to convey.
Similar writings by Ross Jeffries and David Shade do support the ability for people to recognize the set of circumstances and changes in one's energy flow to bring about attraction. Now I know this sounds like some new age mysticism, but it is true---attraction doesn't just happen, there are some things which happen to us subconsciously (and thus, unbeknown to our conscious minds) which lead to attraction.
Don't know if this is on the same level as love, but certainly attraction is something you can control...otherwise what's the use of becoming a PUA? |
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Ingredients
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I am now of the belief that love is something that can be as amazingly temporary as it can be amazingly permanent. The convention is to believe that when you feel love, you should be ready to commit to that feeling forever. 'Love is forever', 'Love is undying' etc etc. I think that you can be in love with something or someone for even a few moments...but what's key here is, you should allow yourself to feel love for any time less than forever.
The convention that love is forever means that you reject the majority of feelings, brushing them off as insignificant, or not 'true', because they don't present themselves in the right circumstances that would logically allow you to form a permanent 'loving' relationship with whatever the source of these emotions is.
I'm not saying that I fal in love every woman I'm attracted to...I'm just saying that I am sick of trying to trivialise what love 'is'. The result of this is that it is an experience based on rejection rather than acceptance. Or in other words, you are governing yourself based on negative emotions rather than positive.
So now I want to try and let go a bit more. If I feel strongly for something or someone, why not call it love? Where do you draw the line between really really really liking someone, and loving someone? Can anyone actually tell where that line is? I think love is just another point on the scale of like/dislike...or in other words love/hate.
Dismissing emotions because they don't reach the holy plateau of 'love' is digressive towards truly feeling for the world around you. |
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