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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:16 am    Post subject: I feel like I CANT get over AA. Reply with quote

IdK what it is. I just feel like I cant get over it. I go out and get "dressed to the nines" to make myself feel good about how I look. I've been studying the MM book like a Science Text book (A1 Obviously) and I listen to my favorite music on the way there and Im feeling good, but then as soon as I get there, everything just leaves my head and I cant understand why. Confused Anyone who can help with this?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, try dressing down (nice shirt and jeans, etc..) and not having any expectations when you go out sarging for a while.

You may try doing this at a different club.

Just walk up to different groups of chicks, and ask them if you can join them. Then just sit or stand there, talk, smile, make eye contact and participate with no goal or expectations. No number close, no Kino, no nothing. Unless a chick initiates it. You may find things start falling into place for you.

Sometimes when you overdo the dress thing you can make yourself uncomfortable, like you've just written 'I want sex' all over your forehead or something. That's a lot of pressure to put on yourself.

By doing what I suggested above you're building a neural pathway while you are more comfortable and relaxed, and you can take things in steps instead of trying to apply it all at once. By spring you can be alot more comfortable in your own skin, and will have built significant social proof as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a lot of posts about this. Keep reading, and practice confidence-building techniques. Inner-game is just as important, if not more important, than outer-game.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have a friend in the same boat as you? Get someone to push you to do it. When I go out out by myself I usually meet a group right away and get comfortable with them. But when I go out with a "sarging" buddy we push each other to approach more sets. It's fun to push each other a little further.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: I feel like I CANT get over AA. Reply with quote

Pill13 wrote:
IdK what it is. I just feel like I cant get over it. I go out and get "dressed to the nines" to make myself feel good about how I look. I've been studying the MM book like a Science Text book (A1 Obviously) and I listen to my favorite music on the way there and Im feeling good, but then as soon as I get there, everything just leaves my head and I cant understand why. Confused Anyone who can help with this?


You can't get over AA. Everyone has it to some degree, even the master PUA's. This could range from a butterfly feeling in the pit of your stomach to raging storms inside your head. You can slowly, gradually, effectively reduce your AA by doing repetitive approaches.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PM me for advice.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel the same way man... To help me against this I have created a routine for me A1 through A2 and memorized it and also write it on a piece of paper and keep it in my pocket when I go out in case I forget.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're drying up because you're trying to quote a method. MM is about the principles, not the material. Practice the principles. This goes for ALL methods, BTW. Don't be bound by the systems you study - this is NOT what the developers of the various methods intended.

Also I'm going to go against some advice here and tell you to drop the books. You've read enough by the sound of it - the only way you're going to really learn is to get out in the field. If game was about being well read, Stephen Hawking would be the mac daddy to beat all mac daddies!

You need the knowledge, but you've been reading religiously (As you said). If you've got the material learned, it's time to build understanding and confidence. That comes from success. Success, understanding and confidence ONLY happen in... guess where...
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like for you to try something. Many of my friends have AA, and I told them to do this exercise and they have gotten over it, some in a few days some in a week and some in an hour.

Go outside, to a park, or town square wherever there are a lot of people. Hopefully there will be some HBs there. Now once there, go ask them a random question, "What time is it" "How do I get to here" "Whats a good place to eat around here" whatever, stupid questions, it doesn't matter at all. But you will get used to talking to people, approaching people...if you have an EXTREME case of AA, go ask guys first, ask old people, move to ugly chicks, then go approach HBs. It will make you more comfortable with people and with approaching. Take small steps, and big leaps!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talk to a few girls that aren't especially attractive and just carry on a conversation with no goals attached. If you can do that then just realize the only difference is looks. When you see a hot babe just think to yourself, what will I think tomorrow when I reflect back on tonight? Will I feel bad again that I didn't approach that girl, or will I be proud of myself for getting over my fear?

I used to have it, and I still have it to a degree just like most other guys. You have to think about it though, really internalize it. The WORST thing that is going to happen is you don't succeed, you don't even lose anything! The BEST thing that can happen is you HAVE SEX with a BEAUTIFUL girl!

Do you want to be the guy that gets in bed with hot girls? You can be! The only thing stopping you is yourself! When you look at the attractive girl across the room, she doesn't reject you, you reject yourself by not going over there. Just do it man, even if it feels like you are walking to the edge of a cliff.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Intensity23 wrote:
Talk to a few girls that aren't especially attractive and just carry on a conversation with no goals attached. If you can do that then just realize the only difference is looks. When you see a hot babe just think to yourself, what will I think tomorrow when I reflect back on tonight? Will I feel bad again that I didn't approach that girl, or will I be proud of myself for getting over my fear?

I used to have it, and I still have it to a degree just like most other guys. You have to think about it though, really internalize it. The WORST thing that is going to happen is you don't succeed, you don't even lose anything! The BEST thing that can happen is you HAVE SEX with a BEAUTIFUL girl!

Do you want to be the guy that gets in bed with hot girls? You can be! The only thing stopping you is yourself! When you look at the attractive girl across the room, she doesn't reject you, you reject yourself by not going over there. Just do it man, even if it feels like you are walking to the edge of a cliff.


Here, here! Knowing you tried (regardless of the result) is better than wishing you could have another chance to do it over. Just remember, if she doesn't respond how you hope, chances are that you will never see her again.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TRS wrote:

Here, here! Knowing you tried (regardless of the result) is better than wishing you could have another chance to do it over. Just remember, if she doesn't respond how you hope, chances are that you will never see her again.


Well said that man!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pill you need a coach or wing of some kind that will kick you in the rear end.
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