To keep it short, I met this teacher downtown. She's a feminist, kinda more serious and from Seattle. So I meet up, I don't think I came in well, I said "I'll give you a hug for looking just as good in person as you do online"

To sum things up, I did cold reading had high energy and hit everything perfectly and was like "Damm I'm good!" I was kinda extroverted. We then played pool I teased her, joining said she's doing things wrong, said where do I find girls like this, pushed a bit. Then I told her to come out so we can go outside and I went to my car and said let's go. She's like where? I said X park, she's like that's far from here. I said that's the magic of of a car you can go and cone back. She's like I just met you 5 mins ago and I don't know you, you could slash my throat and kill me (in a joking way)

I was like wow... OK that's fine, let's just walk. As if she really over did it. Eventually we just walked more and sat down and I said, look I really need to go to my car cause its freezing and she kept saying like I can't go, you should understand the fact that I don't feel comfortable with that. And guys, I was being very light hearted and funny and honest. I was getting frost bite and just was in pain ft a few reason. Eventually she's like well... I'm gonna go catch my bus this way, I'm like cool. Then she sort of took the lead and we walked more even though she wanted to leave I switched the subject and I got desperate here. I started using logic. Yikes.

I said did you notice you want to leave yet we're still talking. What do you look for in a guy, blah. I said hey I'm having an event soon I I asked you to come would you go? She said... no
I'm just being blunt. I said I know, I was just testing you to see if you were really as authentic, cool. Then she says this... I got to go, honestly I didn't feel like we have the same sense of humor... so I just wanted to have clarity with that (in like an OCD way). I'm like that's fine go and she stood there. Like ya OK bye, and I said you was able to tell this all in 5 minutes... Are you attracted to me? She said something else. I said well you didn't say yes or no. She like I dot know yet. I like your hair and you have nice eyebrows and your cologne smells nice. I was like ah ok. Then I walk with her instead ofeaving her there and still tried to salvage things. Bad move. I know.

Needless to say I felt what I did wrong was 1) I planned a date in a dull area. 2. I joked around too much when I should have just got to know her. I kept teasing about her looking away while she talks to me and I guess she felt that was annoying. 3. I didn't attract her right or really do much right - or much kino. 4. You may say this is me trying to feel better about myself, but I just had a realization like, who needs her? She was too serious, she even said her mommy and daddy paved her way for her, she "gets what she wants" she dressed like an old lady, wasn't that hot and I kinda thought she was crazy.

And I was this handsome well-groomed intelligent man standing right in front of her and she said no. In my mind it's her lost. Some guys may say I'm just trying to make myself feel better or that I just failed and I'VE REALLY BEEN BEATING MYSELF UP ABOUT THIS. However, is I wrong that I believe it's her loss? I realized her telling me she wanted clarity was her way I taking control to protect her ego so she don't feel rejected.

It was a real blow to my self-esteem and I just realized I was so rusty and really need to understand game. There's so many methods I don't know where to start. I was so good at this and I feel I just lost it.

Hugging is kindergarten, friendzone shit. This was your first mistake. Real men don't talk about fucking hugging, they just do it in person if need be.




Major fuck up. You seem way to eager here and have not built enough comfort.



At this point you are coming off as incredibly needy. I would never contact this girl again. Never ask a girl if she's attracted to you. Never ask her what she's looking for in a guy. Never follow a woman who doesn't want to be followed. You go back into the bar, take a deep breath and start gaming other girls.

And it's okay to get rejected. It doesn't make you less of a man. it seems you kept following her because you couldn't face the rejection. It happens to all of us. Try less hard next time, and don't focus so much on the girl. Be yourself.

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Hi man, you're being too hard on yourself. Like the last poster said, meet other girls. With the next girls, more kino, more closeness. ASSUME they'll be into you as opposed to Wondering if they're into you.

Re: online, it's easier to me to just meet girls IRL - then you KNOW if the chemistry is there or not and there isn't a time waste for you or the girl when you meet up.

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Hey man, I know I messed up. I'm trying my best to be self-correcting. But like you said, it's always good to have a positive and educated view remind me not to be to hard on myself. That really is surprising to me and almost shocking cause I take this very serious. So it's like "You mean I don't gotta' be so hard on myself!? Wow". I almost don't know what view to take about all this. It just depressed me and made me feel unattractive, unworthy and like I know jack about game after all my time of studying.

I will comment more when I have time but keep in mind... I actually drove like 70+ miles to see her cause I don't like girls in my town. Their kinda basic. This made me realize a lot. I made a post about this, I'd really like everyone's opinion on it. general-questions/don-understand-game-p ... 95948.html

Nothing you said about her really matters here. Point blank is you tried to get a girl from online into your car within a few minutes of meeting her. If you're gonna do that with the average girl... At least talk to her on the phone for some time before the date so she feels comfortable around you. Otherwise it's hit or miss. Also... If you get resistance to get into your car don't force it. If it's that cold.. Plan your dates so you're not in the position of having nothing to do in warmth besides getting in your car.

Thanks man, I really value you're input! I posted a link above from another post I made, I'd really love to hear your opinion

These 'mistakes' are normal. Expected so to say.

The only real mistake you made was driving 70+ miles in order to see this woman.

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This sitution is all about misschemistry. Simply you could not find a strategy to impress her and focus just on that. You should have acted naturaly but there was not a chemistry. Best thing to do is learn from your mistakes. If you are handsome and wellgroomed enough, finding pussies should not be problem for you.

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