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Author:  flamingace96 [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:18 am ]
Post subject:  Value
What is value? Is it different from success or is a successful man also a valuable man? What does it mean when someone is high value? I have heard about DHVs and stuff but i seriously don't seem to understand the difference between bragging and DHVs; they both seem like the same thing. Does value mean you have a lot of success or a lot of experience?
Author:  n2thevoid [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:17 pm ]
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DHV = you posses a quality, virtue, or trait others admire (e.g., humour, wisdom, intellect, power/access to resources, etc.)

Bragging = overstating your self-worth by overtly conveying a trait and/or virtue (real or imagined) for the sole purpose of impressing others

DVH is not feigned/faked, nor is it 'done' to win people over

Bragging is done to win people over, and comes out of an energy of neediness for the acceptance of others

I'm half asleep so I take no responsibility if this isn't the clearest description.
Author:  LIFE PUA [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:04 pm ]
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High Value is a misnomer of sorts. High Value is you being a man and letting your faculties show, not because you need to show them but because it is who you are. A DHV is and of itself just an expression of your personality, in a slightly structured manor.

Bragging is telling or forcing your qualities to elicit a desired effect.

The goal is to let them flow out naturally because you have an abundance of your qualities.

In PUA, DHV'ing is like incidental bragging. It does what bragging attempts to do without the negative.

n2thevoid did a good job summing up the exact same thing I just did. Props.
Author:  flamingace96 [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:19 pm ]
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Thanks
Author:  Eddie Fews [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:37 pm ]
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From my understanding of the whole Pick Up Rules (Which I've never paid too much attention to) DHV comes from consciously demonstrating to the woman you're talking to that you possess something that would suggest that you're high up on the social ladder.

Which is something I completely disagree with doing. When you're properly walking the walk; and you've already established a life for yourself that makes YOU happy; you don't have to demonstrate anything. You are already a walking demonstration of that very thing.

IMO DHV is an attempt to make someone like you based off of a life accomplishment. I think its silly; I have a homeless buddy alex who meets women on the streets of NYC and sleeps with them so he can have a place to sleep at night. And he's happy this way; at this moment its how he wants to live. Women respect him because he has to courage to be upfront and honest about it. He has nothing to brag about; in the social world he has nothing to brag about other than the fact that he sleeps with lots of women and is an aspiring actor.

You're value is at its peak when you find contentment with in yourself and have no problem expressing that to everyone around you. Anyone who hasn't will instantly be drawn to you because they want what you have.
Author:  Hunter_Foxe [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:55 pm ]
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DHV is only useful if you are unconsciously displaying DHV qualities without realising what DHV is. It should never be taught as a pickup technique because it's impossible for noobs to attempt it without looking like an outcome-dependent bragger.

See value as recognising your true strengths and being entirely self-content with or without a woman.
Author:  flamingace96 [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:41 am ]
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IMO DHV is an attempt to make someone like you based off of a life accomplishment. I think its silly; I have a homeless buddy alex who meets women on the streets of NYC and sleeps with them so he can have a place to sleep at night. And he's happy this way; at this moment its how he wants to live. Women respect him because he has to courage to be upfront and honest about it. He has nothing to brag about; in the social world he has nothing to brag about other than the fact that he sleeps with lots of women and is an aspiring actor.

You're value is at its peak when you find contentment with in yourself and have no problem expressing that to everyone around you. Anyone who hasn't will instantly be drawn to you because they want what you have.
Alex sounds like a boss loool. I have never even thought of sleeping with women just because i would not have a place to sleep.

So talking about your passions would be a DHV? I talk about my passions in life a lot (lifting, writing, reading, etc).
Author:  Playboi_ [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Value
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From my understanding of the whole Pick Up Rules (Which I've never paid too much attention to) DHV comes from consciously demonstrating to the woman you're talking to that you possess something that would suggest that you're high up on the social ladder.

Which is something I completely disagree with doing. When you're properly walking the walk; and you've already established a life for yourself that makes YOU happy; you don't have to demonstrate anything. You are already a walking demonstration of that very thing.

IMO DHV is an attempt to make someone like you based off of a life accomplishment. I think its silly; I have a homeless buddy alex who meets women on the streets of NYC and sleeps with them so he can have a place to sleep at night. And he's happy this way; at this moment its how he wants to live. Women respect him because he has to courage to be upfront and honest about it. He has nothing to brag about; in the social world he has nothing to brag about other than the fact that he sleeps with lots of women and is an aspiring actor.

You're value is at its peak when you find contentment with in yourself and have no problem expressing that to everyone around you. Anyone who hasn't will instantly be drawn to you because they want what you have.
One of the realest posts I've seen here. Success, DHV, true inner game is only achieved when you are happy with you. You got blown out by every girl tonight but enjoyed yourself and are just going to down a stack of pancakes before bed? If you are happy with that all, fuck it, welcome to happiness and true value, brother.
Author:  Eddie Fews [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Value
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From my understanding of the whole Pick Up Rules (Which I've never paid too much attention to) DHV comes from consciously demonstrating to the woman you're talking to that you possess something that would suggest that you're high up on the social ladder.

Which is something I completely disagree with doing. When you're properly walking the walk; and you've already established a life for yourself that makes YOU happy; you don't have to demonstrate anything. You are already a walking demonstration of that very thing.

IMO DHV is an attempt to make someone like you based off of a life accomplishment. I think its silly; I have a homeless buddy alex who meets women on the streets of NYC and sleeps with them so he can have a place to sleep at night. And he's happy this way; at this moment its how he wants to live. Women respect him because he has to courage to be upfront and honest about it. He has nothing to brag about; in the social world he has nothing to brag about other than the fact that he sleeps with lots of women and is an aspiring actor.

You're value is at its peak when you find contentment with in yourself and have no problem expressing that to everyone around you. Anyone who hasn't will instantly be drawn to you because they want what you have.
One of the realest posts I've seen here. Success, DHV, true inner game is only achieved when you are happy with you. You got blown out by every girl tonight but enjoyed yourself and are just going to down a stack of pancakes before bed? If you are happy with that all, fuck it, welcome to happiness and true value, brother.
Thank you bro. I give a lot of advice on this forum and I feel like often people just take the advice and move on. Its nice to actually read praise from another.

So just know that I greatly appreciate your comment.
Author:  Playboi_ [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:54 am ]
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From my understanding of the whole Pick Up Rules (Which I've never paid too much attention to) DHV comes from consciously demonstrating to the woman you're talking to that you possess something that would suggest that you're high up on the social ladder.

Which is something I completely disagree with doing. When you're properly walking the walk; and you've already established a life for yourself that makes YOU happy; you don't have to demonstrate anything. You are already a walking demonstration of that very thing.

IMO DHV is an attempt to make someone like you based off of a life accomplishment. I think its silly; I have a homeless buddy alex who meets women on the streets of NYC and sleeps with them so he can have a place to sleep at night. And he's happy this way; at this moment its how he wants to live. Women respect him because he has to courage to be upfront and honest about it. He has nothing to brag about; in the social world he has nothing to brag about other than the fact that he sleeps with lots of women and is an aspiring actor.

You're value is at its peak when you find contentment with in yourself and have no problem expressing that to everyone around you. Anyone who hasn't will instantly be drawn to you because they want what you have.
One of the realest posts I've seen here. Success, DHV, true inner game is only achieved when you are happy with you. You got blown out by every girl tonight but enjoyed yourself and are just going to down a stack of pancakes before bed? If you are happy with that all, fuck it, welcome to happiness and true value, brother.
Thank you bro. I give a lot of advice on this forum and I feel like often people just take the advice and move on. Its nice to actually read praise from another.

So just know that I greatly appreciate your comment.
It's because I displayed DHV :lol:
Author:  Versalis [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:49 am ]
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Fuck value. Value doesn't get you laid.
QFT
Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Value
To put it simply... it's what you bring to the table in a particular relationship.

All of your friends have some type of value to you.

In relation to pick up, its the value that you can bring into a woman's life. Women look for certain things in a guy. That's where your value comes in.
Author:  alphabro [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:52 am ]
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