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What can be done about All or Nothing mentality?

Most women, being social creatures, are scared of breaking social norms (which are horrible in conservative societies.) Moreover the film industry feeds crap like "first and only love" into their heads. So girls in conservative societies have this stupid mentality of meeting their prince charming and living happily ever after (and they believe in it all their life.)
Unlike women in progressive countries, they don't understand the world isn't perfect, neither they have much experience. They're like a deluded adult who still believes in fairy tales. They often have stupid opinions on casual relationships, dating etc. and can't even back it up with logic, just citing "traditional values" and "chastity" as the right way.
Most of the (single) women have no idea of what actual relationships are like and are absorbed in their delusions. When their expectations aren't met in a relationship (obviously) they go suicidal, call all men pigs etc.

So anybody with experience with girls from conservative societies, what can be done about All or Nothing mentality?

Women have the upper hand in the game. But as fellow posters have stated, the invention of this community has turned the tables. Women don't like that at all because it goes against what society wants and they criticize "game" as being manipulative and a tool to get into their pants. Honestly, the only course of action you can choose is to stay grounded in your beliefs. Either these girls will go along with your reality or they will go off and find their run of the mill average joe and live their stable conservative lives.

I understand ignoring this delusional mindset part and can manage the attraction phase but I'm more concerned with the consequence part (casual / breakup) since conservative girls wont accept the truth and act out according to their stupid notions, and those actions include crazy things like suicide attempts.
I would really like to know how to manage those girls' expectations and get them out of their delusional mindset so that they don't make a big deal out of petty things and take dangerous actions.

Author:	eagernovice [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:19 am ]
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What can be done about All or Nothing mentality? Most women, being social creatures, are scared of breaking social norms (which are horrible in conservative societies.) Moreover the film industry feeds crap like "first and only love" into their heads. So girls in conservative societies have this stupid mentality of meeting their prince charming and living happily ever after (and they believe in it all their life.) Unlike women in progressive countries, they don't understand the world isn't perfect, neither they have much experience. They're like a deluded adult who still believes in fairy tales. They often have stupid opinions on casual relationships, dating etc. and can't even back it up with logic, just citing "traditional values" and "chastity" as the right way. Most of the (single) women have no idea of what actual relationships are like and are absorbed in their delusions. When their expectations aren't met in a relationship (obviously) they go suicidal, call all men pigs etc. So anybody with experience with girls from conservative societies, what can be done about All or Nothing mentality?

Author:	puaninja [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:43 pm ]
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That's kind of the reason game was invented. Women have all these absurd, fantastical, and delusional ideas about how men should treat them and what they should be like.They go thru one man after the next, trying to "fix" them, then get burnt out until they finally settle for whomever happens to be the next guy to cross their path. I've dated a couple foreign girls and they are like this. In their 30s, no kids and never been married. They talk about guys looking good on "paper" but not holding up to their standards in real life. But why would the upper eschelon of men want to be with a really consevative foreign girl with overly high standards? The answer is they wouldn't be, which is why these types of women are single. The only positive aspect of it is that once you get your hooks into these women you can get away with murder. That's why I love game because it teaches you how to get past all the barriers these women put up. The same gaming techniques work on pretty much any type of woman if you do them right, conservative girls included.

Author:	Mr. Marville [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:01 pm ]
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Quote: What can be done about All or Nothing mentality? Most women, being social creatures, are scared of breaking social norms (which are horrible in conservative societies.) Moreover the film industry feeds crap like "first and only love" into their heads. So girls in conservative societies have this stupid mentality of meeting their prince charming and living happily ever after (and they believe in it all their life.) Unlike women in progressive countries, they don't understand the world isn't perfect, neither they have much experience. They're like a deluded adult who still believes in fairy tales. They often have stupid opinions on casual relationships, dating etc. and can't even back it up with logic, just citing "traditional values" and "chastity" as the right way. Most of the (single) women have no idea of what actual relationships are like and are absorbed in their delusions. When their expectations aren't met in a relationship (obviously) they go suicidal, call all men pigs etc. So anybody with experience with girls from conservative societies, what can be done about All or Nothing mentality? Yeah! Exactly. Here you can see how I gunned down all these religious conservative barriers of Alexa. I reflect a lot upon the impact of religion upon the female psyche in my thread. Let me know what you think Mr. Snake! Remember what he taught you: "We´re all for sale at one price or another - there are no heroes or heroines. You lose, you die a dog´s death." to-live-epically-vt149144.html

Author:	Mr. Assertive [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:35 pm ]
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Haha, do not even acknowledge the mentality that society has conditioned these women to think. For example, right now I have 3 girls that I am regularly seeing and they all have the presumption that I will change. They claim that my personality is an act, that it is not the real me (I am delusionally confident, a bit of a narcissist, and am a little bit too challenging). They do not tell me outright what they think the relationship should be but taking a look at their twitter and facebook accounts they have quotes or thoughts indicating that men are supposed to be this and that. They are also trying to make me work harder and that I should be showering them in affection...tha fuck? Women have the upper hand in the game. But as fellow posters have stated, the invention of this community has turned the tables. Women don't like that at all because it goes against what society wants and they criticize "game" as being manipulative and a tool to get into their pants. Honestly, the only course of action you can choose is to stay grounded in your beliefs. Either these girls will go along with your reality or they will go off and find their run of the mill average joe and live their stable conservative lives.

Author:	Mr. Marville [ Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:13 am ]
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Quote: Women have the upper hand in the game. But as fellow posters have stated, the invention of this community has turned the tables. Women don't like that at all because it goes against what society wants and they criticize "game" as being manipulative and a tool to get into their pants. Honestly, the only course of action you can choose is to stay grounded in your beliefs. Either these girls will go along with your reality or they will go off and find their run of the mill average joe and live their stable conservative lives. I think it´s prostitution and the opening up of foreign markets due to globalism rather than the invention of this community that turns the tables.

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Author:	eagernovice [ Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:56 pm ]
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I understand ignoring this delusional mindset part and can manage the attraction phase but I'm more concerned with the consequence part (casual / breakup) since conservative girls wont accept the truth and act out according to their stupid notions, and those actions include crazy things like suicide attempts. I would really like to know how to manage those girls' expectations and get them out of their delusional mindset so that they don't make a big deal out of petty things and take dangerous actions.

Author:	eagernovice [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:58 pm ]
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Author:	User13247 [ Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:50 pm ]
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Quote: I understand ignoring this delusional mindset part and can manage the attraction phase but I'm more concerned with the consequence part (casual / breakup) since conservative girls wont accept the truth and act out according to their stupid notions, and those actions include crazy things like suicide attempts. I would really like to know how to manage those girls' expectations and get them out of their delusional mindset so that they don't make a big deal out of petty things and take dangerous actions. Suicide has nothing to do with conservatism. Suicide, and especially threats of suicide, are often just calls for attention. By rewarding a girl who threatens with suicide with attention, one is simply reinforcing her behavior and bringing her closer to actually attempting it. It sounds a little like you are involved with a girl who is threatening with suicide if you break up. Like I said, this is probably just a cry for attention. So tell her that such threats do not make you love her, nor do they make you want stay with her, their only effect is to make you even more unhappy with your current relationship. Also, don't let suicide threats stop you from breaking up with her. There is no need to sacrifice your happiness in order to achieve her ultimately unattainable goal of staying together forever. If you think the suicide threat is actually credible, inform her parents and alert health professionals. Then simply wait for them to take the situation out of your hands, because you are both unable and unfit to deal with an individual who is intent on killing herself.

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