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Author:  drmanhattan66 [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:04 pm ]
Post subject:  just started, trouble reaching social hook point
hello everyone, i'm anthony and i just started approaching sets 1 week ago. i've gone out every night since and have opened 10-20 sets per day all at the mall.
so my problem is when i open these sets, either with a question or opinion opener, i just get the females opinion, thank her, then leave. every set i've approached except 2 has easily opened and some even respond quite well, but i never really reach a social hook point, or keep talking, or flirting or what ever.
it's like i've overcome my fear of approaching a set, but i still haven't overcome my fear of women. i'll be there in set delivering the opener perfectly, but i never go from being formal & asking the question to joking around or having an actual conversation. just question, answer, thanks, leave.
this is incredibly frustation and i refuse to give up. i want this too bad, more than anything. how the hell do i get past this. do i just need a routine or story to immediately go into right after the opener? seems kind of wierd to ask a question then just start telling a story. is this just something i must get used to.
any help would be much appreciated.
Author:  Monsignor Crisanto [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:26 pm ]
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After the approach and opening, learn these:

1. Wide rapport, here: any-ideas-on-improving-conversational-s ... 32823.html

2. ESP Model of Escalation by Warped Mindless, here: esp-model-of-escalation-vt97891.html

3. Kino Escalation Techniques

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV4A9KKjb3I[/youtube]











Combine items 1, 2 and 3. It works. :twisted:
Author:  drmanhattan66 [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:04 pm ]
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thanks hellhound
i will try to wide report the chicks i open when i go out sarging today.
i've already read the ESP model, but i am still having difficulty shifting from asking a question to actually talking or running a routine.
i will have to watch the kino escalation videos tomarrow as i am at the library and forgot my earphones, but honestly i'm not even close to escalating kino yet; i can't even talk to these women!
should i like just bust instantly into a routine right after the opener? if so what's a good one?
im picking a copy of the mystery method up today from the library.... maybe this will help.
again any help will be appreciated
Author:  Monsignor Crisanto [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:56 pm ]
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While assessing topics from the environment, you can use these two wide rapport fillers to buy you time so you can bounce from one topic to the next. If you can bounce to 5 topics in 1 to 2 minutes, then you're good.

Girlie Nail Polish with Computer Designs
  • You: I think your nails have an infection. There seems to be (color of intricate nail design) microbes in them.
    Her: (Puzzled look/Giggle/Laugh)
    You: I think those are symptoms for epilepsy.

    Topic 1

    You: You're probably (dorm mates/room mates/high school friends/office mates) and I can tell you all have a good aura. So how did you (two/three/four/five) know each other?

    Girls: Well, blah, blah, blah.

    Topic 2

    You: That's cool. Oh lookit. That hairstyle is awesome.
    Girls: Where? Blah, blah, blah.

    Topic 3...

    Topic 4...

    Topic 5...

    Add wide variety of light kino into each topic.
Girlie Eyelashes with Neon Colors
  • You: I think your eyes have an infection. There seems to be (neon color) discoloration in your eyes.
    Her: (Puzzled look/Giggle/Laugh)
    You: I've read somewhere that those maybe symptoms for gynecological anorgasmia.
    Her: What?

    Topic 1

    You: It's a disease you get from eating pancakes cooked from Teflon cookware. The same material that goes into the manufacture of pink dildos and orange vibrators. By the way, I'm running an errand for my conservative grand mother. What do you think is the best color that older people like? She asked me to buy an inflatable doll for granpa.

    Girls: Well, blah, blah, blah.

    Topic 2

    You: That's cool. Oh lookit. That hairstyle is awesome.
    Girls: Where? Blah, blah, blah.

    Topic 3...

    Topic 4...

    Topic 5...

    Add wide variety of light kino into each topic.
The keys are to use topics from your environment and bounce from one topic to the next. This is fast paced action but listen to the girlie inputs well before you bounce to the next topic. :twisted:
Author:  drmanhattan66 [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:27 pm ]
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wow, this is great stuff, i just have to muster up the balls to actually say this. i'm going out again in a few minutes(to the mall again, of course) and will definately try this stuff out, but i was also wanting an easy routine or game that would be good for a newbie. any suggestions? maybe palm reading?
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