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Author:  andersonsmith969 [ Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:15 am ]
Post subject:  Consistently rejected midset
It's like the girls have turned me down before I've even opened my mouth--I'll smile and give eye contact, and they'll look away. Then I'll walk up or, if they're on the move, I'll say "hey." Sometimes they'll ignore me, and I'll have to touch them to get their attention.

Then I deliver my opener. Sometimes they'll laugh, but the other day I did a C+F about being cuter than her and she just said, "Okay."

Girls won't banter, won't flirt, it's like they show no emotion whatsoever. I'll tease and shit and be like "Hey pizza girl," because she had a shirt from some pizza place she worked at, and she just looked at me like this:

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I mean, I can't even find a picture online of this look.

Then I said she looked confused, and did she know she worked at a pizza place, and she said oh yeah she did, and I said "Good, just trying to make sure you're not stupid," with a cocky grin on my face.

Then she continued getting shit out of her gym locker and I asked her name, and after I gave mine she said she had to go.

This is typical with 60% at least of my interactions.

The other 40% of the time the girl will just ignore me until I am forced to leave, or I'll decide I have to go and try to get her number, and she'll either say "I don't know you" or "I have a boyfriend."

Here is a video of me in all my somewhat nervous glory for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evmE7UX7SWc
Author:  _Lothario_ [ Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Consistently rejected midset
How about being nice? And I don't mean "being nice to pretend you're just nice when you just want to fuck." But maybe actually approaching girls for a REASON, and telling them what the REASON is.

For example...if I'm at a bar there are 100 girls there. What made me want to talk to this one girl? You're talking to the pizza girl but you're just doing it to fill time or to get used to talking to girls. Have some intention in your action. Find out something about her that may qualify or disqualify her for a potential lay. Her looks qualify her for conversation but something else must turn you on on a deeper level right?

Is there something you noticed about her? Maybe she doesn't do herself up and you like the display of confidence in that? Maybe she does herself up and you like that it's a sign that she takes care of herself? Knowing what you like is a sign of experience. Maybe right now you don't know and you are getting that experience by opening more girls.

Maybe you should start building an abundance by approaching some lowbies. I do this ALL the time because to me I just like girls and I like some girls to flirt with via text that I just otherwise don't give a shit about and that makes it easier. The hot girls have WAY more of an abundance than most guys and I am assuming more than you as well. Build up an abundance. Start with girls who you KNOW are a little lower than "your level" and work your way up from there.

It's kind of hard for you to get it in your head that you deserve ONLY super hot girls if the reality is....you don't get super hot girls. Because if your head doesn't match reality then you will just FINALLY get some super hot girl and totally fall for her and become desperate for her. You will become this needy little bitch of a man, who was cool at a bar one night and she will fall quickly out of love with you.

So start lower. Be nice. Under the radar girls like to be complimented because they don't get attention ever, so when you give it to them it's such a big deal and they will not want to let it go. Keep them around but don't commit to monogamy. You're in college. Pussy is everywhere. Even if you're fucking tons of ugly girls you'll get so much sex that your experience level will go through the roof. Super hot girls want experienced men who aren't needy and can actually make them cum. They want to be fucked rough by a MAN and not treated all lovey dovey like a needy little bitch boy who can't bring them to orgasm because he's all sentimental and has no sexual experience.

Work your way up. Get the abundance momentum behind you and snowball into pussy oblivion.

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Author:  andersonsmith969 [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Consistently rejected midset
Not to be rude, but most of your advice was crap: not applicable, not relevant nor specific to my situation.

And that last bit: what the hell?

I'm having problems hooking and apparently attracting sets from the getgo, and I gave some examples. What, from this, can you suggest may be the problem?
Author:  _Lothario_ [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Consistently rejected midset
It sounds like you're approaching for the sake of approaching.

What was your intent when you made a crack at the pizza girl?
Author:  Monsignor Crisanto [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Consistently rejected midset
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It's like the girls have turned me down before I've even opened my mouth--I'll smile and give eye contact, and they'll look away. Then I'll walk up or, if they're on the move, I'll say "hey." Sometimes they'll ignore me, and I'll have to touch them to get their attention.
You're setting yourself up as a creep or potential sexual offender with this approach. If you want to have a better success rate while dramatically lowering your risks in being labeled as a creep, bait the girl for kino instead of touching her first. Let her touch you first by being playful around her. Girls will be laughing at anything you say even though your lines are not funny, if and only if, they gave you that requisite glance of interest first.

If you're in a small community or in a college environment, being labeled a "creep" has some far reaching negative social proof consequences. There will come a point in time that you'll have to sarge in another city to troubleshoot your mistakes.

The high rejection rate will also dampen your confidence.
  • Low confidence = Low sexual attractiveness
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Then I deliver my opener. Sometimes they'll laugh, but the other day I did a C+F about being cuter than her and she just said, "Okay."

Girls won't banter, won't flirt, it's like they show no emotion whatsoever. I'll tease and shit and be like "Hey pizza girl," because she had a shirt from some pizza place she worked at, and she just looked at me like this:

Image

I mean, I can't even find a picture online of this look.

Then I said she looked confused, and did she know she worked at a pizza place, and she said oh yeah she did, and I said "Good, just trying to make sure you're not stupid," with a cocky grin on my face.

Then she continued getting shit out of her gym locker and I asked her name, and after I gave mine she said she had to go.

This is typical with 60% at least of my interactions.
That's a non-verbal shit test that you failed. You approach her with high confidence and then you started doubting your confidence midway. She sensed this and you gave her an AFCish sour grape line, ""Good, just trying to make sure you're not stupid".

The solution here is to build your confidence levels up so you don't need to fake your confidence. You can do this in two ways: (1) Desensitize yourself to rejection. In simple terms, that means sarge 100 more girls. (2) Engineer high success rate approaches so you build your confidence step by step. In simple terms, sarge 10 girls at a time and tweak your approach for the next batch of 10 girls.
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The other 40% of the time the girl will just ignore me until I am forced to leave, or I'll decide I have to go and try to get her number, and she'll either say "I don't know you" or "I have a boyfriend."

Here is a video of me in all my somewhat nervous glory for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evmE7UX7SWc
Honestly, I never got this "I have a boyfriend" rejection. In your description, it's a rejection rather than a shit test.

What I almost always get from girls is: "Are you married?" or "Do you have a girlfriend?" I usually answer, "I have many wives." Some girls will banter back, "Can I be one of your wives?" or "You're handsome... Joke."

So how do I get this kind of result?

Before learning the pick up arts, I never got any of those overly positive reactions from women. But now I do. It's very simple. When other girls see that several beautiful girls are touching me here and there and are always laughing when I'm around, they think I'm a very handsome guy.

That's social proof built through propinquity. It will turbo boost your game.
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